electric car sales volt #1

Den fredagen den 2:e november 2012 kl. 15:10:12 UTC skrev Tom:

With 6,000 units tallied, Toyota is ready to taunt its plug-in competitors.= The company said that half-year sales of the Prius Plug-in far exceed that= of the Chevy Volt (2,745 units sold in its first six months) and the Nissa= n LEAF (3,875 units). Toyota claims that it offers a more competitive, comp= lete and accessible package, earning customers due to the Prius Plug-in Hyb= rid's "fuel economy, how the Plug-in dispels range anxiety of pure electric= s and the value that the Prius Plug-in represents."

Thinking about the market for electrics, they would be great around the city, especially a small one. The 40 mile electric limit is not a problem. The downside though, is How do you charge it? Many city dwellers have to park on the street. One place I live in the city it was rare that I could find a spot in front of my house. Even when I could, running an extension cord across a city sidewalk is not going to work.

Den l=F6rdagen den 3:e november 2012 kl. 19:51:52 UTC skrev Ed Pawlowski:

There is an increasing number of parkingmeters being set up as charging pol= es. In some cases the electricity in those poles are free to encourage use of e= lectrical cars.

So in the future charging the EVs will not be a problem.

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electrical cars.

It may lessen the problem, but not eliminate it. Some people park at the meter for minutes, maybe an hour or two, others can't use them at all.

Ever live in the city? I mean where parking is allowed only on one side of the street. Where you come home and find the nearest parking spot is a block away. There are hundreds of thousands of homes like that in big cities. You go someplace for a while and come back and cannot charge your car.

Where I lived in Philly, I had a private driveway so charging is OK, but I also lived with my grandmother for a couple of years and there was no way to run a cord to a car. Many people are not allowed to park in front of their house. It eliminates huge numbers of potential buyers.

Side note: I was in Vermont this weekend. Twice I was behind a Prius with an Obama sticker.

Den s=F6ndagen den 4:e november 2012 kl. 21:35:01 UTC skrev Ed Pawlowski:

f electrical cars.

If you take it to extreme then you could have an electric contact at every = parking space where you can connect your EV wherever you park your car.

There is already trials with cordless charging of cars.

In many places there are EVs vailable to rent for a short time like half an= hour and you can take the car from a train station and leave it at your ho= tel or shopping mall and thn you can use another later to go on another sho= rt trip.

There is no longer the need for everyone to own a car or two which is not u= sed more than say 1 hour a day and then stand parked somewhere the remainin= g 23 hours.

As the systems of EVs grows these kind of problems will disappear.

There is no need for a massive net of stations with the style used with gas= oline.

Every parking space can easily be a fuelling station and you can use your c= ard or telephone to pay for the electricity.

The powergrid to distribute electricity is already more or less in place.

You do not need trucks to distribute it.

In many countries the loss in the powergrids is enough to do the charging o= f the EVs at off peak times and can be very cheap and no need for new power= plants just to accomodate the EV revolution.

Another big change is that true electrical cars do not need as much repair = so the net of people fixing todays cars will be changed a lot.

80% of the profit the carmakers get today come from spare parts and that wi= ll more or less be gone.

That is why the carmakers are not too happy about EVs and are trying to get= people into Hybrids because they still have most of the drawbacks for us c= ustomers and the benefits for the carmakers.

The trend toward EVs is unstoppable and the only thing that they can do is = try to postpone it as long as they can.

Plug-in-hybrids like the Volt are a good thing because it is part of the ch= ain over to the true EVs.

It would actually make more sense to have a true EV and then for longer tri= ps you could hook a trailer behind it with a combustion engine to produce e= lectricity when you can not get it fro the powergrid.