Newer car Basket Case

Jun 07, 2004 37 Replies

Update: Customer still has not supplied engine. Yard still doesn't have it "ready"

Yesterday I got a core Gen III 3.1/3100 for free. No intake, or accessiorses, yet it aught to be usefull. The people that had it were happy just to find someone to haul it off. Charles

I'm a metal man:

Not Plastic Surgeon Kildare!

LOL

I make the metal as straight and as shrunken as humanly possible, most times no plastic!

Maybe I'll drive out one day. The septic looks like it's on it's way to approval for the ground. So things should be moving soon.

Refinish King

Always a good catch!

just the crank is worth a good buck!

Refinish King

DAMN....for that money I'll tow my stripped Cutlass to you anywhere North America and STILL come in thousands cheaper than around here...Closest quote I got for a quality street paint job SIGHT UNSEEN mind you was $5000. Where you at???

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How large a shop will you have, building wise?

Ours is pretty small 40x80. With an office, and a large bathroom taking up 1/8th of the space. When we put our lift in, we had to cut a rafter out, since we have a peaked roof. The bottoms of the rafters are at about 12 foot. Which makes for some interesting moments with the fork lift.

Your welcome out here any time. My place aint too impressive. Looks like someone crossed a Junk Yard with a repair shop. Charles

I'm looking to start with a 100X100:

With 30 foot high ceilings, so I can go after the truck and heavy equipment work.

Plus, if my frame machine and spray booth business picks up when I make the prototypes for U.L. and get U.L. approval.

With the acreage, I'll be adding on another 300X300 feet for manufacturing, plus another 100X75 Feet for the cars and keep the trucks separate.

This all in the planning stages. hopefully I can lease something soon, otherwise I'll have all my savings pissed away and nothing to do anything with. Depression causes compulsive spending!

Refinish King

manufacturing,

Hmm.. I might have to start hanging out in P.A. I love helping people spend money!

I can probably help you get some parts if you need. I know most of the classic auto salvage folks in this area, and a good number of the good old boys that have privet salvage yards. Not to mention what I/we(business partners) have (atleast 80 vehicals being parted out right now). Like if you needed Allision Automatics for 3208 Cat powered Ford cab overs from the late 70's erly 80's, I have 2 good used units, a rebuildible 3208, and a core 3208. Both Transmissions only have 12K since overhauled.

If your going in to medium and heavy repair, consider the extra cost of a good 6000 pound capasity fork lift, and a good 6 or 8 post lift. I my self have become lift spoiled. The fork lift we use right now is a 3000 pound capasity Toyota with a Gasoline 4 cylinder. Cushion tires, 2 stage mast, 3 & 5 foot sets of forks. Purchased used by my business partner for $500. Our lift is a used ALM brand 2 post A-symetrical with a capasity of 9000. Although it's a bit concerning when you have full side vans, and 1 ton trucks on it. We paid around $2,500 for it.

We have had zoning issues too. The Zoning inspector for our area is related to a fromer business partners, former business partner. So he has issues with us. Thankfully we are zones Industrial One. The same as the salavge yard on the other end of the road. We have to put up a privacy fence now, which is going to cost a few thousand. When done Im sure he will be back with another thing we have to do.

Charles

what type of buildings are you planning? I'm assuming metal buildings, yes? have you settled on a manufacturor yet? if you haven't... I'd suggest taking a look at Package Industies out of Sutton, MA. (I've put up about 30 of their buildings in the last 4 years alone). I've worked on Butler, Star, Varco-Pruden, Stant, and Package buildings and I'm partial to Package.

hth, Bret

-who's glad to be getting out of the iron worker business... hard on the body.

take him to court and make the relationship an issue!

Do it Pro Se, f*ck money hungry lawyers, the courthouse has all the laws specific to your county, and the city hall has the zoning laws specific to your area.

Salvage yards and privacy fences were a federal law, since Ladybird Johnson had it enacted, when Johnson was President.

So that is a federal issue and you have to comply.

Refinish King

PS

As far as the heavy trucks, I'll only buy what's needed, and lots of farmers like to get their old trucks restored with the farm's logo. So, that is an untapped resource I'm looking into.

thanks for that info Bret:

The metal buildings the area contractors erect, seem to buckle or fall when it snows more than a foot. I was looking at a contractor from Lebanon, Pa. I'll ask about the brand: "Package".

Maybe I can rent a crane to put it up myself and save ten grand?

I bet my accountant would love that!

LOL

Thank you again!

Refinish King

manufacturing,

We arew not technically a salvage yard. We are listed as a multi-use auto facility. Repair & Tow Service Impound lot.

To sue, I would have to be 1000% in the up and up. That means spending atleast an extra $1000 per month on rent, just to have the required distance from the parking area to the cars. Plus I would have to have a seperate office, with utilities. Then a privacy fence.

I have looked in to it, I could do it if I barrowed money. Im not sure I really want to. After all my 5 year plan included moving. Charles

Ya know my business partner is a Union Operator, and he has Mill-Wight, and rigging buddies. There all petty much out of work right now. Im sure they could all use a bit of money. Charles

this is their website

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PA is the southern end of their range. the only problem they ever had was that a contractor was "stretching" the buildings by eliminating the laps in the purlins/girts and had one collapse... that contractor has been out of business for quite some time, however. my soon to be former employer has been a package dealer in Maine for just over 20 years, there have been zero structural failures in any buildings we have put up. they are very heavily braced, extremely so if a rail or beam crane is installed.

package works somewhat like a car manufacturor... i.e. you need to go through a dealer. they're got a contact page on their website.

something also to consider is the price of steel is on it's way to tripling in price over what it was a little over a year ago... we've had alot of buildings go on semi-permenant hold because of the increase in cost.

you'd have to go to crane school first before anyone would rent one to you. we haven't used a crane in 4 years. we use a Caterpillar TH63 telehandler to hang all the iron.

-Bret

Soon as I get the DEP paperwork:

I'll be ready to fly!

I'll keep you posted.

Refinish King

Mill-Wight,

then it pays to do like I do:

Kill em with kindness, then flip them the finger. Rigid and stiff as they're smiling thinking they got you. As they're walking out.

As long as they let me play, I can make money to put up with the petty s*it, but when they tried to close the doors twice, I took them to court. Pro Se, and won!

So, in the end, sometimes there is justice for the little pissed off Italian!

LOL

Refinish King

Cool. BTW: did you ever get my e mail? Charles

Yes:

I finally replied to it tonight, sorry I took so long. I had an appointment with the DEP and the SBA today, so my nerves were a wreck!

get back to me when you get a chance?

Refinish King

appointment

I wanted to make sure it got thru. Crystal Tech's mail server had a fart this week and I got like 20 mails bounce, even though 5 people got mails that it said bounced. Web Hosting compaines out west, go figure.

Ill reply shortly. Charles

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