Re: Disable DRL'S on 2002 S-10

On my 2001 S10 I can push the dome lamp disable button 4 times in a row and it will then turn off the DRL.. It's been a while since I used that "feature" though. I don't remember if it turns them off until the next 4 presses or until you start the truck again....

Not Dead Yet

I'm pretty sure the code isn't VIN-specific, but GM does require the VIN for their records, and yeah, you have to be municipal, military or law enforcement, and sign all kinds of disclaimers and promises to reconnect them, blah blah blah.

DS

Why is that? They're not REQUIRED by law, although GM would seem to like to require them. Seems to me that GM doesn't have any right whatsoever to restrict anyone from disabling DRLs. Or was the OP in Canada and I missed it?

Right. They're required by GM.

GM, with all the financial doo-doo it's in, is still pushing NHTSA *very hard* to mandate DRLs in the US.

You're right, of course, which changes nothing.

Nope, we're talking about the US.

DS

Every so often, I begin to admire something GM is doing- the Northstar engine, the Gen-III V8, etc. Then they go and painfully remind me why I'm a 3rd generation Mopar/Ford guy...

One can hope that since GM is preaching DRLs with their financial pants down around their ankles, the response will continue to be laughter.

Don't bet on it.

"NotDeadYet" used that "feature" though. I don't remember if it turns them off

It resets at each ignition cycle. So it would be a "routine" one would have to do at every startup.

It is a laughable (more like idiotic) position GM management has put themselves in regarding this topic. But they don't see it...and will keep loosing sales because if right into bankruptcy (or so it seems at the moment).

There was an early morning commentary about GM and Ford this past week. It is a bit hard to understand. The 'expert' said that both companies had suffered from failure to advance technologically as they should have done, and this caused part of their problems. Secondarily, they have so many legacy obligations that they almost have to stay in business, even running at breakeven or a slight loss, to avoid the consequences of these contracts, agreements, etc.

He said they have no alternative but to run at a loss or near loss. Dvs, they are in such bad shape they cant afford to go out of business.

Employee health care costs of approaching $2000 per car is a big problem. But I guess we all know that the USA has the best health care in the world that few can afford.

Nope, you need a friend. Google to see meaning of word. Someone with a Tech 2 or compatable can turn the DRL's off. It's a simple option that turns them off via the vehicles computer. Why is this concept so hard for some who read this group to understand... Be friendly to people who work on your vehicle. Remember there is no law requiring DRL's in the U.S. So there is no penalty for turning them off.

Can't afford to go out of business? Never heard that one before! My guess is that they can't afford not to seek bankruptcy protection (at some point), which bankruptcy *may* give them their only relief from these contracts you speak of.

I thought it was an odd concept as well. How many times was Chrysler in bankruptcy? A couple at least. That may be one way to break contractual situations which have evolved out of hand.

Would you like to guess again? Hint: its a smaller number than "a couple" and in fact its equal to the number of times cows have sprouted wings and flown over the moon.

There are a lot of myths about the great "Chrysler bailout." Its very popular to believe that "the government pumped money into Chrysler to save it." That is false- the government simply GUARANTEED private loans to Chrysler, which Chrysler ultimately paid off early and without the government giving Chrysler one red cent. Its also popular to believe that "Chrysler went bankrupt" (and add "a couple of times" if you are the previous poster!) That is also false- the company was certainly on the edge of bankruptcy in 1979, but never went over the edge and recovered without a bankruptcy filing.

So the answer to the question is "zero."

You are correct that they never had to file bankruptcy but they were functionally bankrupt at least two times.

They got loan guarantees, tax credits, etc which actually kept them out of the bankruptcy courts.

They dodged (no pun intended) the bullet, but not the gunfight.

Chrysler Europe avoided filing bankrupcy by selling the operation to the French.

Chrysler America avoid filing bankrupcy by asking for loan guarantees based upon tax credits, if my memory serves.

So you are correct that they never entered bankrupcy filings, but on at least these two occasions, the operating units were out of working capital (in essence, bankrupt). They were saved by a white knight in the one case, and by Lee Iacocca's brilliant maneuvering in the second.

I'm sure he would. That's what HLS does best: belligerently substitute ignorant guesses for knowledge he doesn't have.

And you are still a prick, Kyle.

It is no posible way to disable DRL on a civilian auto or truck. Only Police and Fire vehicles have that option. It is a program already preloaded on the factory when the vehicle it is order. The other way will be trhough a dealer but the Vin# , Ro# and last 4 of the Social security # of Tech working on vehicle that calls Tech assist to get a software issue to that particular vehicle. Thats GM rules. Now if you don't mind the warning light in youre ipc you could remove the relay and fuse but remember depending on the vehicle for example cavalier a check engine light will come on. so it is up to you. GM Certified Technician. "NotDeadYet" >>> headlites) on a 2002 s-10?