on Friday 14 September 2007 04:40 am, someone posing as Tim took a rock and
etched into the cave:
Is this news?
Even as a government worker, the new peeps get brought in at a lower rate
than the old timers.
For example, my former boss retired earlier this year. She had a different
retirement package, compensation system, and medical benefits than I have.
Also, we have steps for a given position. Most positions have five salary
steps. The newbies start on step one, while those who have been here awhile
are on step five.
Electricians as with all building trades start at a lower pay level. Its
call apprentice. They get increase every 6 months. When schooling, and
required on the job training they become a Journeyman and get full scale. It
has always been FULL scale for everyone. This I agree with.
HOWEVER now comes along this reduced rate for light construction with
reduces benefits. Same profits for the contractors but less in the working
That's the way it goes. Wages should reflect ability and contribution. A
new journeyman should not be worth what an experienced journeyman is worth.
When "the working man" does not like the difference in the contractor's
profits and his wages, he does have a choice...
That is one of the best features of a union. Slackers and experienced
conscience workers get the same wage. Time on the job is more imortant than
How so? You are making assumptions that the contractor is able to charge
the same amount for the job. There are times the contractor must take less
in order to keep working. Competition is tough, especially in slow times.
There are times that the contractor will take less, yet still pay his
workers the same. Do you have evidence of the contrary?
What I love about America is we have choices. If I don't like the scale a
contractor is paying, I can go to another one that pays more, I can become a
rocket scientist or a greeter at Wal Mart.
In my last 20 years of working in the trade I have been paid well over union
scale. For scale is a minimum the contractors must pay. If you earn it they
will pay it, and maybe throw in a truck to drive. Now I take my three union
pension checks to the bank every month. Glad to say I am and always will be
a union man.
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