I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
maybe you can tell me!
I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
Where should I look?
Thanks for your responses!
I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
experience with CNG,
so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
driving out of my way to get it.
I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
Beam, how you find it more expensive.
I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
Thanks again for your time!
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
(production). At least for the US market.
And the GX does not come in a manual.
I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:55 -0800, jim beam wrote:
The same. Anything that puts a pressurized tank of explosive material in
a position to be impacted in a crash is a little scary to me.
Just having a pressurized tanks of anything is dangerous in a crash. Even
a highly pressurized tank of air being impacted would not be very safe.
personally, i'm a good deal more concerned about hydrogen. i had the
"privilege" to witness a gas cylinder fire with subsequent explosions
one time, from a safe distance, and that was pretty impressive. bits of
metal were flying at least 100m vertically each time one went off and
the evacuation radius was a good two blocks. in a good hydrogen tank
explosion, i wouldn't want to be inside 10 blocks. getting into an
accident with one of those things on the highway? there wouldn't be
much /scene/ left for accident investigation, let alone bits of car.
probably not much point even fitting air bags to one of those things!
dude, there wouldn't be enough bits left to put in a bucket...
the point of accident investigation, whether it be plane crashes, car
crashes, crane collapses, whatever, is to prevent recurrence. it's hard
to do that when evidence is vaporized.
In the late '70s there was a hydrogen leak at a transfer station in uptown
Phoenix (Indian School near 21st Ave, for the locals). A cryo tanker was on-
or off-loading when the leak appeared. The fire department evacuated a half
mile radius IIRC. The big concern was a BLEVE, which is not literally a
concern with pressurized gases but is a concern with liquified gases. A
propane BLEVE involving a railroad tank car in Kingman in July 1973 helped
everybody take that seriously.
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