I'll agree with you on this partly. I have a friend who purchased his
Nissan within a week of me purchasing my Honda. He does less than 70% of the
preventative maintenance that I do and he's had more problems than I have
experienced with my last three Honda vehicles. On top of that, three years
into our purchases his Nissan has a fair amount of rust on his gas tank and
the floor of the car, as well as a number of mechanical failures.My Honda
had none of these problems. Preventative maintenance is the key.
At $5K either a Japanese or American make can be a good deal, but either
will certainly need some attention in the years to come. Depending on where
you live, it can be hard to find a decent Honda or Toyota for $5K that is
less than seven or eight years old. With the American makes 5 years is
Definitely ask about specific cars (model and year) on the appropriate
newsgroups. The common experiences are going to be typical of what you can
expect and you will get warnings to check on various things. Ignore those at
your own risk!
One last word - if the engine uses a timing belt (and most engines from the
years you are looking at do) expect it to need changing immediately. Unless
you can get help from a serious DIYer expect to pay in the $500 range for
Okay - my own prejudice... I don't like the reliability of Dodge/Chrysler
Whatever. I owned three japanese
cars and one american. I like my japanese cars. But I have
to give it to the americans that the car was
1. rattle free
2. did not need any major repairs
3. pulled like a locomotive
All three of my jap cars rattle. All three came with wimpy engines and
one out of three was a total disaster maintenance
wise. So you opinion be as it may I should say that
there is a lot of things to like japanese econoboxes
for, but reliability is not one of them for sure.
02 Legacy with 92k miles to 03 Taurus with 95k miles.
The former expired the engine at 166k while the latter
made it to the same mileage needing no major repairs.
I don't think I spent over $1k over 70k miles of the taurus.
Fair enough? With one driven wheel civics are simpler
and probably way more reliable than subarus,
but still not indestructible as the prices
for the used ones would suggest.
Repeat after me: used jap cars are WAY overprices compared
to the american cars. Ironically, the reverse is true for
new cars. I can't think of any american car for under $45k
that is a good value when new.
On Mar 6, 10:57 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
OK, that cleared a lot up. I agree. Used Japanese cars are overpriced,
perhaps due to the stereotype of the American cars. And I also agree
with your statement on new cars -- but I do have a soft spot for the
big rear-wheel-drive Crown Vics/Grand Marquis. A 1996 Merc Grand
Marquis Bayshore is my current daily driver!
I forgot about those. They probably are indispensible to cop
due to ability to withstand abuse better than the japs.
I can't picture cops going over curbs at any decent speed
in accord. Not to mention that a police turn in an fwd car
would be an interesting feat to watch :-)
But I can't picture myself in a crown vic (except maybe in
the back after having too much fun in my jap cars :)
Solstice probably would not have been bad if it were not so
heavy. Good enough for midwest I guess.
That reminds me of when a lady friend asked me for advise when buying a
new car in 1994.
She liked both the Taurus and Honda Accord which cost a bit more, but
she told me the Honda dealer told her the Taurus would be worth much
less in 3 years.
I asked her how long she intended to keep the car, she replied about 10
years. Then I said there will be little difference in value.
She bought the '94 Taurus which has served her very well and which she
still drives daily.
1994 Accord EX $2736
1994 Taurus LX $754
These are the current private-party values for those 2 cars. The Honda
is still worth significantly more. If she were to trade in her Ford right
now, she'd get a paltry $323 for it from the dealer.
I think she couldn't care less. Old people usually have
a good idea how hard money are to get (for most people anyway)
and are pretty stingy as a result.
For her probably it matters only if she can get another
5 or 10 years out of it. Won't be surprised if she could.
Heck, my old boss has a 10 y.o. taurus that was stinking
(literally) pretty badly and despite making about $1/4mil (US) a year
among himself and his wife he just could not let go.
His secretary is driving LS400 though :-D
Well, most people who kill their Hondas do so by not changing the timing
belt when called for. I figured you probably ignored the belt and ruined
But I now see you came up with a more ingenious way to kill what should
have been a bullet-proof car...
Bull. I bought a 1995 Toyota Tercel in 2001 for $1400 and sold it in 2004
for $1400 with 130,000 miles on it and PLENTY of life left in it.
Car was in near mint condidiotn, it had a dent in the door, ran like a top
and got 44 MPG with an AT. I needed to sell it to get the money to buy a
Supra. If you look hard and long enough, you can find deals.
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