or if you want the Prenco it's only $112 here:
If one goes bad, how would you know which one. Does the computer
tell you that...does it tell you where the misfire is?
On Thu, 7 May 2009 14:26:46 -0700 (PDT), hyundaitech
Indeed. The trouble code indicates the misfiring cylinder (if the
computer can detect that). Even without that information, as long as
the engine is misfiring during diagnosis, it's fairly easy to
performance test. If one of the coils is arcing, that should be
visible. Otherwise, you can a coil as long as you have an old wire
and two plugs. You can pull the coil and attach wire, putting one
plug in the coil and one in the wire and laying both on the intake.
Then start the engine and observe the spark intensity/capacity by
gradually pulling one plug and then the other away from the intake
watching how far it'll jump. You may want to wear insulating gloves
when doing this.
You have definately gone above my pay grade. I'll change the plugs
and wires, as soon as I get a torque wrench delivered from Amazon. I
have everything else, and if there is still a problem, which there
probably won't be, I'll bring the car into another dealer. Since,
those coils are easier to get to than the back plugs, the charge
shouldn't be too much. Although, I am intrigued by the possibility of
diagnosing coils arcing. Unless, I just change one at a time.
Is ther a lubricant that has to go onto the threads of the plugs?
On Thu, 14 May 2009 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT), hyundaitech
All right - Alan went and bought himself a torque wrench. Don't stop there
Alan - you need to start drooling over a great big compressor, an impact
gun, and most of all - a set of torches. You really can't do any meaningful
kind of car repair without a hot wrench. Nothing says satisfaction like
facing a stubborn, won't budge an inch bolt, and lighting up the torches...
BTW - just remember to always store your torque wrench at its lowest
The torque wrench never came from Amazon, it ships tomorrow. I
actually need to do this today or tomorrow because I have a case in
Trenton, 3 hours away, so I was going to buy one at Auto Barn. The
guy there told me these things aren't that accurate anyway and snug
should be enough. Besides, it was only $14.95 and it's not a "hot
wrench." Why are you talking about a compressor? Seriously, I am
attempting to do this and you are so condescending because I haven't
done it 40 years. I don't think it takes rocket science to change six
spark plugs and probably one of the easier things to do on a car and
all I worry about is getting things put back the right way.
Many people attempt there own tax returns and screw things up for
themselves. They never know if they did anything wrong until it is
too late. I'll know if something is wrong as soon as I turn the key
and if something is wrong, the AAA will tow the car to a gas station
and they will finish it.
On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:15:23 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
Not condescending at all Alan. I've been watching your efforts since you
first brought up your problems and your concerns and have been encouraging
you as you've treked your way through the world of DIY. Happy to see a guy
step up to the task. At one point I indicated to you that I admire someone
who throws his hand at finxing his own car in this day and age, as it can be
quite daunting with today's cars. Most of us have grown through the
evolution of cars and have had the advantage of embracing the technology in
cars as it came along. That's an easier pill to swallow than jumping right
in today, in your own driveway or garage.
As for the compressor or the torches - pure joking around in the manner of
people who do their own work. There is this endless pursuit of more tools,
as you do more and more on your own. It becomes something of a joking
matter as we become tool junkies of sorts. Nothing at all intended to
insult you or appear condescending.
You don't have to defend your decisions to do your own work here - that's a
big part of what this group is about. Please take a second and re-read my
earlier comments from the perspective of being included in a group of people
that you are now joining, and hopefully you will see them to be inclusive
comments, and not insulting comments.
Do exactly as I am going to do when mine runs out of warranty and mine is a
2002 XG350..... with 37,000 miles on it. In 2012 when the warranty expires,
I will drive it until the check engine soon light comes on. At that point
it will not be worth spending the ridiculous prices charged for repairs and
I will either drive it to or have it towed to a salvage yard for whatever I
can get out of it for scrap.
I am not sure that I would do what you would do but you are right,
after the 10 years is up, you have to be a little nuts to put big
money into these cars because a new transmission (I already had one
replaced) or engine (I once had to replace an engine on a Mitsubishi
Galant at 26,000 miles and it cost $2,500) is not worth the residual
value. What bugs me about the car is that you can see how Hyundai
chinced out on the leather and didn't put enough on the seats. I
noticed the driver's side left air vent is popping out and even the
dash bumper seems to be separating.
I do love the way the car handles on wet bridges and it's heavy and
safe. I have a new Maxima and the XG300 was never that good a car
even though the sales people said, back in 2001, it was not competing
against the Camry, the Avalon (which I had before the Hyundai) or the
Maxima but against the higher end Lexus 350 and the Infinity. Yeah
right. In retrospect the three or four thousand I saved by buying the
XG300 over the Maxima was certainly lost in residual value but the
guaranty makes up for that. In my next car, I would want a long power
train guaranty from a stable company.
The question is, with the economy such as it is, what do you buy or
lease? Leasing looks a lot better than buying these days unless you
get an incredible bargain. I wonder which car is the easiest to fix
or have fixed if there are no dealers and no extended warranties.
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:19:08 -0500, "Elmo Finsterwald"
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