I'm looking at a 97' Hyundai Accent on autotrader.com and i really like it.
It's selling for $1750 but i think i could talk them down. I just turned
seventeen and so i have a low budget. Ive been looking for a few weeks and
this is the only one i can afford that doesnt have 200,000 miles on it (it
only has 82,000 miles). I've read some reviews and there are more good ones
than bad. But my friends keep telling me that they Hyundais are flimsy pieces
of crap and that ill get killed easily in that accent. Here's the link:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id 9175893&dealer_idC566041&car_year97&search_type=both&make=HYUND&distanceP&model¬CENT&sponsorModel=%2Fredirect%2Fredirector_link.jsp%3Fto_url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fad.doubleclick.net%252Fclk%253B17101743%253B10747588%253Bh%253Fhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.hyundaiusa.com%252F%26mis%3DFCSFBDMGHY830&address#188&certified=&advanced=&max_price 00&bkms44179329966&min_price=1&end_year 07&start_year81&isp=y&lang=en&cardistE
I think it looks awesome and i wont buy it without interrogating the salesman
to death, but i want to make sure that i dont buy something that's going to
fail in a month and that will kill me in a collision. Also, the dealership is
like an hour away, so i dont want to make a completely worthless trip. Post
whatever info you have...
Well - as ads go, it certainly looks like a good first car. But ads are
ads. I guess the first question I would ask you is why do you feel you can
talk the salesman down? What will be the basis of your negotiating? Not to
suggest you can't, because we all do, but he has to have a reason to come
off his price. No offense, but he's going to look at a 17 year old as
someone who is not his mental equal and he's going to tell you a ton of
things to keep the price up there and bank on the fact that he'll convince
you of the car's worth, or make you feel like he doesn't care if you walk
away or not. Do you have the cash for the car? If you do, you've got a
negotiating platform. If you're looking for a loan he will know you'll need
a co-signer and if you come in alone (without a co-signer), he's not going
to take you seriously. Just the realities of how things work. Can he sell
you a car in your state at your age? So - think about these things and go
in prepared with how-ever or what-ever you need to actually negotiate a
As far as an 85,000 mile Hyundai goes - there's not inherently anything to
be afraid of in that mileage. I'd make sure the dealer certifies that the
timing belt has been changed. There won't be any Hyundai warranty on the
car at that mileage, but the car required a new timing belt at/before 60,000
miles and you'd be at risk of a major engine problem if the belt has not
been changed. This is not unique to Hyundai - it's an interference engine
matter. When ever you consider a used car you should spend the $15 or $20
and purchase a Carfax report on the car. There's a certain amount of
assurance in that - not fool proof, but better than taking a saleman's word
on things. You'll need the VIN to pull a Carfax.
Hyundai's are far from flimsy pieces of crap. They are as well built and
reliable as any car in their class, and will survive an impact as well as
any car in their class. Look at all of them on the road. Look at the minor
collision damage you see on them - do you see fenders torn or any other
signs of a car that is somehow more flimsey than any other car out there?
Of course not. Call your insurance agent. Tell him what you're interested
in. If Hyundai's were flimsey and were death traps, the insurance premiums
would reflect that because the insurance companies would be paying out
higher claims on them. They aren't. Ask your agent if it would be any
cheaper to insure another car in the same class. Nope. Your friends just
don't know what they're talking about - sorry.
So - what are you going to ask him? What does interrogate him to death
mean? It's not a bad idea when buying a used car, but you have to have a
plan for what kind of information is meaningful and what kind of information
you really need to know. That Carfax report is a good starting point.
The best thing you can do for yourself is to take the car to a mechanic you
trust and have him look the car over. A real, qualified mechanic will know
what things to look at and will give you sound advice. Take it. $1750 may
not be a lot of money as cars go, but it's all you have and you don't want
to waste it.
There's no guarantees in the used car world. Anything you buy could very
well die two days after the dealer's warranty is up. That's the risks you
take. In most states the dealer has to warranty the car for some period -
but that varies from state to state. Check your state laws. If the dealer
does not have a specific, written warranty, walk. Don't fall for the verbal
warranty crap. You don't have the money to chase a claim through the court
system on a verbal or implied warranty. Used car warranties will often
cover "drive train". Get a written description of what is covered in "drive
train" and what is excluded. The dealer doesn't have that? Walk.
Your web link is for a dealer that only operates by appointment. That
scares me right off the bat. Maybe it's legit, but it's unusual. I'd be on
guard big time. Do yourself a favor - and again, don't take insult at this,
but take an old fart with you. No sense setting yourself up to be taken
advantage of by an unscrupulous dealer. 45-50 year old farts like some of
the guys in this newsgroup can have a leveling affect on a dealer.
BTW - what kind of axe ya got?
Hey, thanks for the post.
I was going to bring my stepdad with me to see the car soon and bring cash so
that it would be easier to talk him down and then see what kind of warranty
they caan offer. I know that they offer extended warranties. Also, I think i
can bring down the price because nada and kbb say that it could be a little
lower. If it's good condition it could be lower, but if it's in excellent,
then i probably couldnt budge it much. Im also researching the hell out of
this car, the reviews and safety. So that might help some. Also, ill probably
get a carfax report, test drive it, and get a compression test if i buy it,
because i heard you should do that. I took a 5 month driver's ed course (one
semester) in school so we spent 3 weeks on buying a used car. Like not ubying
it iof there's sufficient rust or water damage and what to look for for
cleanliness in the engine and crap like that. I probably wont go out to see
it for about 3 weeks though. Surprisingly, the biggest thing im worried about
is paying for car insurance.
I have a Dillion PRS Copy, a custom made strat, and a Takamine EF series.
Mike Marlow wrote:
With a handle like that I couldn't let your post go by without offering a
bit of advice.
Stay away from extended warranties. No matter how good the dealer or anyone
else makes them sound, they are a rip off. There are more loopholes in
those contracts than there are holes in swiss cheese and they cost an absurd
amount. Those things are meant to prey on the fears of people and *never*
pay to invest in. Take the money you would have been paying for that
extended warranty and put it in the bank every month. By the time you're
ready to replace that car you'll have a nice little downpayment for your
next car. Or... you'll actually have the money to repair the car at a
fraction of what the warranty would have cost.
I like your approach - at least you're not drooling to get this car, no
Cool. I have a Terry C. McInturff Glory Standard, a Taylor 710CE, and a
Jackson that I've tweaked a bit - not even sure what the model number is.
It's a fat-strat configuration.
Hmm my research indicates that it's a good idea to get an extended
powertrain warranty on off warrantly Hyundai's. I'm sure there are
extended warranties that are scams, just like there are used cars that
'91 Gibson Les Paul Studio
'77 Ibanez Artist
Yamaha 441S acoustic
I was about to buy a nice beat-up old vintage guitar on ebay and fix it up,
but i can't get a car and guitar. And no car means no girls. I dont care how
much attention i get with guitars, i want to drive around town and get some
Mike Marlow wrote:
Couple of guitars and a set of wheels and a fella is off 'n runnin'. One or
the other of 'em is bound to attract a girl or two. Though... the car is
probably more likely to draw 'em in. Plus... the car has a back seat for -
oh wait, you're a young fella - you don't need to be knowin' 'bout that
As someone already mentioned, be *SURE* the timing belt has been
changed. This is an absolute must. If it breaks without being
changed, you will likely damage the engine and it will not be covered
by warranty. You might be able to get a printout of what repairs have
been done to the car from the dealer. I would want the timing belt
thing in writing.
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