New Commander is UGLY

Actually, I think it's the Mitsubishi guys they hired. After all, the new GC looks just like an Endeavor and the Commander looks like a Montero on steroids. Heck, even the liberty looks like an overgrown Suzuki Vitara. Definite Japanese influence in the designs methinks.

No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future. (Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)

Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will refurb it? You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers (TJs excepted).

You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi. n.

There are plenty of 2000 and 2001 XJs with low miles out there looking for new homes.

towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?

Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

aha that's more like it !

Makes you wonder why my WJ I-6 cylinder can tow 5000 # with 750# tongue weight and the new more powerful V-6 has a capacity that is 30% LESS.

I do have another serious question. Why is the maximum gross combined weight 2000 # less with a class III hitch in the 4x4 than the 4x2? It is the same with a class IV hitch.

Here's some links to what purport to be the actual '07 TK.

Will be fascinating to see how durable this 3.7 v6 proves to be compared to the trusty old I-6. I seriously doubt we'lll ever see one do the routine

Here's another source, and guess what: Not only a four-door, but looks like square headlights are back!!!!

What's the average city mileage on them anyway?

Right now I'm giving consideration to a Ford Escape Hybrid. Yeah, yeah, it's no 4x4 by any stretch but at 33mpg city it'd be a hell an improvement over my XJ. Either that or get SWMBO to buy me a new X5.

Already did that once. About 10 years ago I replaced it's engine, overhauled the trans and redid the suspension. At this point I'd be faced with replacing all the rubber bits as they're all just about rotted out. Window seals, roof racks, bushings, etc. AC's shot too (old style refrigerant). Repainting it'll be a pain as it's got that good ol' fake woodgrain stickers (it's a mini Wagoneer). That and a new interior as the seats have seen better days. Too much work to end up with 30 year old tech.

Errr, I'd have a reconditioned ancient machine. I've owned several coup deville convertibles over the years and know what owning a classic is like. This ain't it.

-Bill

Or it's just tape around the round ones.

A 4-door Wrangler could be interesting. Shame it won't be here until '07.

On my 2000 4 liter XJ I used to drive city streets to work 13 miles and back home via the expressway about half way and averaged about 20 mpg.

I worked evenings so I was driving in the opposite direction of the prevailing traffic.

Consumer Reports got 22 mpg as a city average.

Buy another XJ used that has not be off road. No-brainer...

I remember seeing some DC spec's that the TK will use a longitudinal version of the 3.8 l pushrod motor used in the mini-van. Good low-end torque and a proven design, and a diesel is planned as well.