What now?? (Clutch slave again)

Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid. STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and roll. Hmmm...

Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good. Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY! I pumped it a LOT and it came back.

So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.

What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't bleed... HELP!!!

Eric

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Eric
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Just found this online... guess I need a new slave.. @#$@#$%%@#$

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Question: Can I remove this slave and be able to put it back now that the side straps have been cut???

Eric

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Eric

So can I remove the slave and get it back in WITHOUT the straps that kept the shaft pulled back????

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Eric

Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...

The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).

Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!

Eric

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Eric

If the slave won't bleed, it is bad.

You can curse it, put it in 10 times, pump it a million times and it still will be a bad slave cylinder.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:

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Mike Romain

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The way I bleed a hydraulic system, you have to have two people (or use a vacuum pump!). You *don't* take the screw out all the way... it's actually a valve nipple, like a brake cylinder. Open the bleeder screw, have someone push the pedal all the way down, close the bleeder screw, have the pedal come up... lather, rinse, repeat, until there's fluid coming out of the bleeder screw. The idea is to keep air from sucking back into the cylinder/line when the pedal comes up... you pump the fluid in and the air out, using the bleeder screw as a valve.

Until you bleed it properly, you'll continue to have problems with it. __ Steve .

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Stephen Cowell

Check out the PDF I linked to above. You don't bleed this slave that way. There is NO bleeder valve. None, zip, zilch, nada. The only way to bleed it is to pump the bubbles out of the master by pushing on the slave. Wierd, I know. But now my clutch works great. The pedal is stronger than the day I bought it. Of course it's still making that funny noise. Kind of a "chunk". Don't know -- mechanic friend of mine seems to think the fork is a little off or something. He rattled of some things and said it really just slipped a little out of alignment and can easily be fixed (as long as you don't have to pull the tranny)...

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Eric

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Will Honea

That's pretty much what had to be done. But I didn't know that at the time...

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Eric

need to look at the link he supplied on one of his previous writes. It showes the directions he didn't follow. It states that the slave he has doesnt have a bleed screw, and if the screw (That on other models is a bleed screw) gets removed, it ruins the slave and requires replacement with new.

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Robb S via CarKB.com

OK, learn sump'n ever day... glad it's fixed, mostly, that is... __ Steve .

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Stephen Cowell

Mostly... guess we'll see what he says tomorrow...

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Eric

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