Oh, no! Not the bad clutch slave again !

Nov 04, 2005 15 Replies

Here we go again. Am I crazy or what? (don't answer that.) On the jeeps I've owned there have been MANY repairs to the clutch hydraulic slave cylinders. I have been told repeatedly by different people that this is a thorn in the side and to more or less live with it.



I'd MUCH rather put the money into other goodies, new tires, etc etc etc rather than having these things fixed every 6-7 months for years, all with different 91, 92, 93, 94 std transmission vehicles.



Just venting. Could always be worse. Is this as common as I'm told???



Capt. Purple


owned there have been MANY

by different people that this is

rather than having these things fixed

transmission vehicles.

owned there have been MANY

by different people that this is

rather than having these things fixed

transmission vehicles.

I much prefer the mechanical linkage like the CJ7 has. If I was going to do a conversion, that is what I would go for.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail >

owned there have been MANY

by different people that this is

rather than having these things fixed

transmission vehicles.

If it is already in the car, mechanical systems are great, but converting to a mechanical linkage is tricky, because everything has to line up just right. I have known staunch supporters of hydraulic, cable, and mechanical clutch actuating systems, and have come to the conclusion that this is more a philosophical preference, than anything else. They all wear out, most will give good service if maintained properly, and some are in fact just poorly designed, like the hydraulic system in the pre-1994 Wranglers. If you have an early Wrangler, where the clutch slave has failed, the later model with the external cylinder is probably the most straightforward replacement. You will have to get the later style bell housing anyway, because the early one does not provide mechanical access to the throwout bearing.

Earle

I've owned there have been MANY

repeatedly by different people that this is

rather than having these things fixed

transmission vehicles.

I'm not sure you even need the new bell housing, Earle. When I swapped mine out ('88 Commanche) the yard I bought the new tranny from included the bell housing. When I sat the old (BA10/5 1988 vintage) bell housing next to the 94 bell housing he sent for the external slave, they were close enough to identical that I couldn't tell the difference with one minor exception: I had to drill out the mounting holes for the slave cylinder and rethread them. The old internal clutch just had a cover plate and uses small screws to hold it in while the slave mount needed bolts that were about 1mm larger. The 88 bell housing even had the pivot ball for the throwout arm already installed.

I used the junkyard slave for over 3 years before it went out. The replacement slave lasted a year before it literally came apart (The grove for the snap r> If it is already in the car, mechanical systems are great, but converting to

You are talking about the French transmission. If this guy has the Japanese transmission, I am not so sure that it is the same.

Earle

Will,

Something does not add up here.

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Even the number of bolt holes is different. I also found a number of bell housing pictures on this site. It does look as if you can fit an external clutch slave to them, although the pictures are not that distinct, and you can't tell for sure. If you ever want to convert back, someone is selling a nice BA10 on Ebay, Item 8011677356 ;o).

Earle

Convert back? Surely you jest! That BA 10/5 appears to be in the same class as the AX-5 and not even close to being enough machinery for the I6. My simple test was this: lying on my back with the xfer casr off, I pulled the BA 10/5 back, lowered it to my chest, then slid out from under the truck. I could use one hand to carry it. When I started to install the AX-15, I made one half hearted attempt to lift it into place then went and got a transmission jack. Whole new class of machinery.

FWIW, it seems that Toyota also used the AX15 in their half and some

3/4 t> Will,

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