Just read on the Times online driving section: "The British Army is thinking the unthinkable: ditching its venerable Land Rover for a better equipped Mercedes model, reports Tom Robbins of The Sunday Times"
I totally agree with them, in fact why don't we get rid of the uk forces and just hire some chinese or african regiments . They probably work for peanuts. Better still why don't we get rid of the british and replace them with other nationals. Blimey I'm good at this !! ( Damn just had a thought, Tony, Ken and the rest have already thought of that one ! )
The most worring thing about the Army wanting to ditch the Defender bacuase it cannot cope with situations like Iraq is that they're obviously keying up to more situations like iraq in the future .(Watch this space N. Korea) Shouldnt it be the ditching of military (or even political) decisions that lead our army into situations that they cannot cope with ?
Max
Maybe HM Forces need to look at the Perentie as used by Australian forces.
Regards Steve G
Well they don't make proper Land rovers any more do they?
What, you mean the ones with rust and holes?
I can't believe that a series landie could not cope with Iraq they coped with worse. I guess a model T fordcould cope with Iraq (and probably did) so can donkeys as it happens, they don't run out of gas at least just fart it.
Never mind landies not coping with Iraq seems the army can't either.
Anyone ever bought a landie with 'battle damage' ? I mean like bullet holes and the like , I've herd of guys buying ex army jackets with bullet holes in the front and back !
"Big G" wrote
Interesting, but some of the reasons given to consider Daimler Chrysler vehicles, one supplier, worldwide support, etc surely would work for Ford too.
In message , Max Wilkinson writes
Bullet in the front; Medal Bullet in the back; Court Martial
Well they ditched the 101 for foriegn trucks .. which incidentally I'm led to beleive are now built in the south of England if the lads at work are correct... will do some more digging.
Lee D
On or around Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:23:51 +0100, "Max Wilkinson" enlightened us thusly:
now a landie with bullet holes, that *would* be cool.
On or around Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:14:31 GMT, "Lee_D" enlightened us thusly:
Steyr-Puch Pinzgauers, ain't they?
handy looking gadget, I have to admit, but it doesn't have the appeal of the
101.and what about Stonefield? are they still in business? dead-neat space-frame 4x4 and 6x4 trucks.
this lot:
site's quite intersting mind. details on all kinds of stuff, including pinzgauers and RB44s.
Hmm. 6x6 pinzgauer looks quite nice, I could quite fancy one of those.
Pinzgauers are definitely built in Guildford, in the industrial estate opposite side of the A3 from the Wooden Bridge pub, right next to the main rail line to London, for those that know the place. Been there at least a couple of years now.
"Ben White" wrote after...
That must be the site of the old Dennis works. (Dennis of specialist vehicle fame, buses, dustcarts, fire engines)
ACTUALLY, on our Ambi, there is an elliptical shaped hole on the front of the ambi box, near the nearside door that looks exactly like a bullet hole.
Steve
The Reynolds Boughton RB44 was supposed to the replacement for the 101 but is widely regarded as useless, hence the 101 staying in service for longer that intended until the 127 and Pinzgauers came into use. (127s now gone as Rapier FSC needs a 4 tonner)
All Pinzgauer production is now in the UK although the original design is Austrian and 25 years old, lots of continual development keeps it right up to date. The new Bowman radio system is too big to fit in Land Rovers so another Pinzgauer order is likely.
The Stonefield was another one of those 80's government sponsered enterprise schemes that would be a great success and provide loads of employment - NOT. Started in Scotland, ended up in Medway and the only ones mug enough to buy them in quantity was the Malaysians who bought 400. Died around
1990 I think. Used American mechanical bits in a space frame chassis.For the oracle's view (Bob Morrisson) on this look at
Doesn't time fly, last I saw them they were in Holder road Aldershot.
Sounds like it, though John Dennis continued building buses and fire engines down the road at Slyfield.
I have recently seen 6 wheel pinzgauers running around locally. First time I have come across them since one of the arctic expeditions in
1972.AJH
Its very close but nearer the railway line. The Dennis works was alongside the slip road on to the A3, towards the cathederal.
Ah, another example of the MoD doing things their own way. For the last 100 years radios have been getting smaller and more efficient, yet for some reason the new radio system is bigger than the old one.
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