OT: Animal cruelty - live shark bait

Oct 13, 2005 11 Replies
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I know that all you ruffy-tuffy LR people are not without hearts. I saw loads of dogs attached to LR people at Malvern. Hell, I think dog ownership must be a qualification for Landy ownership. I just had this brought to my attention. Live cats & dogs are being used as sharkbait. I'll spare you any more gory details - I can't bear to look.



Please sign the online RSPCA petition.



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Signatures do not have to be UK based. The link is incredibly slow at the moment - I hope it's because so many people are trying to sign - but please be patient.


jermec



'It's not the despair, I can cope with the despair. It's the hope I can't stand.'


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Utter Bastards.

Petition signed asap.

Richard

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I was trying to read your post over the top of one of my cats (17 years old) that was attacking the curser!! Perhaps he had read it too. Petition signed and your post forwarded to all my pet owning friends.

I sometimes despair of humanity.

Then again, I wonder how many of the signatories had chicken for lunch...

On or around Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:27:43 +0100, Tim Hobbs enlightened us thusly:

's one thing killing chickens to eat 'em, another thing using live animals as sharkbait, mind. I've no problem with the former - the latter seems unnecessarily cruel.

the point is, the dogs have a life, then they die an unpleasant death.

most chickens (and lots of other animals) are born to suffer, never have 'life' and then die an unpleasant death.

neither is necessary. neither is justifiable. that was my point.

I eat lots of meat, but I'm fussier than most about how it lives and how it dies.

Agree entirely.

We probably differ on that, but it's all about defining 'senseless'.

But why is it?

Because we're too fecking lazy to go kill it ourselves.

You, and I (well, Charlotte) may very well go for the more expensive 'killed with kindness' meats, the meat which we'd like to think is reared with nice open, green fields, romps around with its mates, and dies with no suffering. This, as we should all recognise, is not really the case at all. "Organic" is a pretty thin con these days once the supermarkets got in on the act, "Ethical" meat equally as bogus IMO. If I go get some lamb from a friend, I may know that it's had a good life before getting lead poisoning from his 12 bore or whatever, but he only has 40 or so a year to kill.

And I'm too fecking lazy to go source other 'killing it nicely' places, as I guess, are most of us.

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There's ever such a slight difference between humane slaughter in a controlled manner and sticking a hook through a dogs nose and dangling it in the sea - if you can't see that, God help you.

Richard

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It's also apparently a hoax, while there has been the occasional example of someone dragging an animal behind a boat as bait (and I don't just mean live fish, which is routine even by anglers in this country), the "remote islanders petition RSPCA tradition etc etc" thing is an urban legend that's been around for some time. The pictures on the site linked to in this group didn't appear to be real to me, so I poked around a bit. I'd suggest that others do the same.

For something far more horrific, have a look for the video of a racoon being skinned alive in China, that's no hoax, the image of a live racoon with no skin, struggling to climb off a pile of other similarly treated animals, with scared eyes blinking out of a skinless face is something that made even me feel rather ill. It's like something out of a horror movie, but real.

Do you mind if we dont?..........

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