OT:Digital CCTV

me away. As stuffs getting

amazing & the DVR was so easy

on site one gets nicked!

want to protect. The prices

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I'd appreciate some info on this, hoping to set-up a studio in an industrial unit towards the end of the year and some shiny nickable stuff will be in there.

Regards. Mark.

I'll gte some info Mark, I get trade prices too with the business. It is easy enough for enyone who can handle a hammer to install themselves. The one i fit did 4 cameras & audio too (req in the shop for tossers etc)

The whole kit including top spec cameras, top spec DVR & even the cable was around £1000, but less spec would be less.

It is so easy to fit & setup anyone could do it who had half a brain.

The one i fit had the network already installed. You can even use it as a burglar alarm too. Motion sensors & even fire detection by motion & UV detection.

Amazing stuff Mark.

Nige

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"Nige" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@individual.net:

If it is of any interest, I run a very small part time video business which means I get sent catalogues.

One which arrives regularly is from a firm called HBL. They have a web site at

Derry

me away. As stuffs getting

amazing & the DVR was so easy

the on site one gets nicked!

want to protect. The prices

not affiliated with the

We are mucking about with cheap IP cameras from Aria technology - they're pretty amazing little things, and will do everything Nige's will do I reckon. Aria charge around 50 quid for 'em.

Steve

You don't mean

I have been known to tinker .. like I fitted a Camera from Maplin which cost me £80 I recall, got IR too. It runs into a video, the output of which runs into my TV card on a spare machine which happily pumps images through a cracking bit of software called Gotcha to my web space.

The software allows lots of tinkering such as ignoring movement in certain parts of an image...such as a busy street. You can remote dial into the machine with a laptop or similar and view video footage (or rapid succession of stills equally as good as video)

Oh and the set up will pump pitcures through my coax lead all the way around the house.

Well... I was impressed and it cost peanuts.

Lee D

I hope you have complied with all the legislation regarding CCTV and allowing it to be used as evidence. I'd hate for you to have the super quality image full face image of a scrote walking away with your property but not be able to use that image in court.

Can you tell us more? Do you have to register that fact that images may be recorded on your property etc, and if you don't, can they be ignored? Will a 2 inch high sign to that effect located in the eaves of the roof suffice :)

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I think you will find that it needs to be displayed at the entrance to the property. The reason for recording needs to be stated e.g. crime prevention and public safety. I think if I remember the regs correctly there has also to be the organisation/person responsible for running the system.

Having said that many notices about cctv on the average high street do not seem to conform to what I think (from memory) the regs are.

I would be interested in the details of the system mentioned earlier in the thread Nige wasn't it.

Not in detail but as far as I'm aware there is a whole raft of stuff from warning notices about 24hr CCTV recording (noticed how everywhere that has a camera has a notice...) through to on what, how and where the images are stored, including the security of that storage and how long they are kept.

I'm sure if you ask google you'll find more than enough bedtime reading... As with anything to do with the law and its interpretation its a mine field and any defence lawyer worth his fee will go through any evidence with a fine tooth comb to find a way to make it inadmissable or cast doubt on it's authenticity. I'm sure the regulations are not that hard to comply with but miss a step or detail and...

Not always the entrance used by the thief then :)

How about someone markets an ally end cap for a 6 D cell Maglite with the CCTV warning engraved into it. Casualty can contact the police if they have guests arriving suitably embossed on the forehead.

I'll get me camel

I fitted cctv to my house this year and have two signs at the start of each end of the property. They read "CCTV recording operated by P Tasker" These are the size of a brick and are fitted to the wall in a bronze colour. I understand they need to be visible ( i:e you can see them)

The upshot is, some light fingered yosser broke into a neighbours car and it was all captured, good enough for the police to be interested and take the evidence away.

Regards

Paul

The ONLY thing which may prevent video from being used as evidence is the quality of the footage and/or the time/date stamp being more than

In message , Mother writes

I think it is the Data Protection act which requires the notice about recording not anything to do with its value as evidence.

Possibly, but I wouldn't count on it as Data Protection has a focus on the storage of identifiable information that can be directly linked to an individual. I can look at dozens of people a day on the CCTV here and haven't got a clue who they are. There's a lot of misinformation about Data Protection and various pieces of differing lefislation. As an example, it is widely believed, incorrectly, that it's illegal to record a telephone conversation.

My comment regarding use as evidence was simply following on the thread and comments made therein really. You may be surprised at the type of video evidence that can (and has) been used to gain a conviction. Usually just the mention of video will be enough to get a confession and Guilty plea.

For what it's worth, as a photographer I can take photos of people as part of a general 'street shot' and need no paperwork for the use, storing or selling of that photo. Compared to a photo of a specific person which, if identifiable (usually means face shown) needs paperwork. I can see a cctv image falling into the former catagory rather than the latter unless there is specific mention of it in legislation.

Regards. Mark.

I heard u need signs on commercial premises so the video can be used as evidence but not in private homes

In message , Mother writes

You may be right I am merely basing my comments on the advice of two professional trade organisations who both advise that the notice etc. is a requirement under the data protection act.

I was also under the impression that identifiable means if someone who knows you sees the video and recognises you then you are recognisable. In that if they had access to the video they could then use the information about you.

In message , MVP writes

See my other post but as far as I understand the Data Protection Act it is exactly that point. If the person can be identified as you say face showing (and for security purposes most set ups I come across try to show faces) then they fall under the data protection act.