Sad but really annoying

Yes, but what was Terry Brown guilty of? What had he done? You haven't said.

From another source....

The 'controlled waste' was 5 Rover SD1s which he kept on his property. It was argued that they were 'waste' because their previous owners had disposed of them as 'worn out, broken or otherwise spoiled'.

On or around Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:44:34 GMT, Landnurse enlightened us thusly:

'tother day I had a sort-out at home and took 6 computer monitors/terminals to the "refuse disposal amenity site" or whatever it's called this month.

Apparently, you can take one telly or one computer monitor, otherwise you have to pay. bollox to 'em.

But, if I want to arse around, I can bring one per week - so I could dispose of 50 per year, at that rate, if I wanted to arse around. If I wanted to arse around more I could visit 6 sites in the county (I'm sure there are 6) and dispose of them all the same day.

And they wonder why people fly-tip...

This is usually all to stop people dumping industrial waste, they don't trust their operatives to spot such things so they put daft rules in place, which the operatives then don't enforce properly, which I suppose vindicates the council's mistrust of them. My local tip wouldn't let the pinz in until I appealed to the council as their own rule leaflet that the operative handed me stated that if the vehicle had seats or windows in the back (pinz has both) then it's allowed in.

They're trying to stop people turning up in panelled vans, but if the vehicle is a 4x4 then that means it's allowed in, so a landy van is OK, small escort-based van isn't!

I cut some trees down in my garden, I had a few comments about turning up every weekend with a landy full of trees, it seems they're not aware of how large a few trees can be.

I don't think the ones at my local tip are aware of the difference between certain parts of their own anatomy 8-). I've had arguments about my Transit based camper while gypos unload their white vans at the next skip...

Greg

Stoke and Staffordshire Moorlands have a "one per year" policy - and you have to give your name and address (or at least, *a* name and address). It's utter madness - do they really think people can't come up with a new address and consquently get some innocent party a bill for disposing of more than one TV in a year.

Richard

Spend half an hour watching the bloke's cabin and the activity that goes on........... let's just say at one tip here it's quite obvious what's going on ;-)

Richard

Locally, North Lincolnshire, they have a permit system for vans. It works pretty well to distinguish Land Rover users from a trademan.

If you check over on uk.business.agriculture, you'll find mention of how the UK implementation of the EU rules is getting holes punched in it by the courts. But 5 cars on a property, all apparently "scrap", does seem to be something that could have been prosecuted by the council under old rules. But the costs come from a different budget.

shows what total bollox the whole thing is I took some waste oil ( 20l from full service ) to pour into the recycling bowser but Kato wont go under the barrier Trafford having set an abitary 5'9 Disco=6'6 meanwhile the local independants are emptying their L200, Hilux into the tip . Derek

The whole point of setting up these disposal sites in the first place was to stop people fly tipping, now they put so many restrictions on them that many people don't bother trying to fight the jobsworth attendants, and just dump the stuff in any old spot they can find.

The long approach road to the Scarborough tip is a classic example of that, turned away from the civic site people just drive over the bridge and dump the stuff beside the road, it all ends up in the same place but employs more council workers picking it up!. Greg

Its not no trade waste, you can dump trade waste if you pay. In this case it seems that they eventually took the sensible way out, and decided that as the council paid for running the tip in the first place, there is no point charging themselves to tip their own waste.

At my local tip, you turn up and dump something off and you can see the employees flogging it to someone for a quid.

Might be worth checking the small print on that one, they have a permit system at my local too, but only if you don't have another car. If you have a stinky smoke-belching prohibited van and it's your only form of transport, then you're fine, but if you have a prohibited van and bunny-hugging eco-skate then you need to turn up in the eco-skate. They warn you that they'll check and request your address to send the permit to. Enforcing stupid pointless rules are where council workers excel.

Is it any wonder they end up dumped anywhere, I phoned my local department about some old computer stuff I want to dispose of, they have assured me I can take my land rover in, after reading this thread I will not be surprised if I can't. Oh well at least I have bins big enough to hide a washing machine in :)

Larry

We used to have that here, all above board, and to my mind it was real recycling as the item itself got reused not just melted down. It was effectively a swap shop with a token amount going to the operators, for example I once got enough new stock fencing to do half of my paddock for a fiver!. Then the liability wallers pounced on it and banned any resale on safety grounds 8-(.

Greg

Sure but I'd rather the money went into something more useful than the bin-man's pocket!

In our one-third-urban, two-thirds-rural area the usual pay-for-trade-waste rule apply, but naturally the cowboys were sneaking in to the public tip with their Transits and/or trailers. So a rule was brought in whereby domestic users with vans or trailers can apply for a free permit, but it only allows you to go 6 times a year -- this even applies to the people who buy a 3-foot-square trailer from Halfords to go behind the Nissan Micra so they can take the grass cuttings to the tip each week!

But here's the catch -- you can download the application forms from the council website.... but you can only give them in in person at the council offices right in the north (urban) part of the borough. Mailing them is not acceptable. For those of us in the (rural) south it's a round trip of 30-odd miles -- very eco-friendly!

So (and to bring this back on topic) it's suprising what you can get on Freelander roof bars -- yesterday it was 3 scaffold poles and a corrugated iron sheet. I bunged up access to the skips for quite sometime while I untied them. With the trailer, of course, it would only have taken me 30 seconds!

GRAEME, North Riding of Yorkshire

Not round here - it's no trade waste at all. Commercial waste has to be take to the commercial sites, £11.00 a bag I'm told.

And anyway, the council *should* be charged - so they really know how much it costs, rather than some loony in suit telling how much it *ought* to cost....

Richard