2005 GS 300 - Dealer invoice price?

You might be sorry only a few months later, when the new GS comes out in the Spring (Oct 04 Motor Trend). It's beautifully styled and will be worth the wait, in my opinion, anyway.

The GS's they're selling until then, while new, are just to fill the time gap for the sales people until the new ones come out...........

Any links to the new GS?

I've looked at lexus.com and at what they term their 2005 model, but it looks almost the same as the current model. Maybe I'm missing something?!?!

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- Based on the new Crown platform and AFAIK will ship with the new direct injection 3L V6 in Japan. Due to US fuel quality, non D4 engines will be used in USA.

- Should have all the keyless start stuff from Prius

- AWD on select models

- AFAIK will be the entry of 'lexus' into the JP local market, so where will the turbo models go?

LiFe.

The new GS prototype was at the NY auto show in the Spring. It was absolutely beautiful. It is said that it was, essentially, "the 2006 GS that will be offered in the Spring of 2005". The current issue of Motor Trend (October 2004) confirms that.

I'd never want to be the guy that buys a Lexus in the 5th year of a Five-Year design cycle, - especially when the 5th year of the model won't even be a full year. Lexus usually uses a 5-year design cycle. I'm not sure if the current GS design is in it's 5th year, maybe someone can verify that.

At any rate, new cars depreciate quickly enough in normal model years - no need to buy one that's only going to be "half-a-model-year" long and have "5-year old styling" the minute the new one is introduced 6 months later.

JMHO

And, the new one will have AWD available as an option. I am definitely going to trade my A4 Quattro in for the GS300 AWD.

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"Curtis Newton" wrote

going to trade my A4 Quattro in for the GS300 AWD.

That's correct. It will have AWD...

Also:

1. It will have a 2" longer wheelbase (more agressive look with shorter overhangs)
2. In the GS330, a V-6 replaces the inline-six
3. A six-speed sequential automatic will be offered (Hopefully they did a better job engineering this than they did when they introduced the new

Thanks. I can't decide whether I like it or not. Looks slightly out of balance alongside the current GS300. Maybe I need to see it in the flesh.

Excellent. I find the 3litre straight six a little unresponsive alongside my old Audi 2.8 V6. Maybe that'll iron out the torque problem. I love my 300, but I miss the smooth power delivery of the V. I hope they've improved the steering ratio too. The current GS300 is almost like piloting a sailing boat around fast corners, as unresponsive as hell.

Way OT here, but my J22 sailboat can turn on its keel at 5 knots.

Yep, that's exactly how my GS300SE does.

I think you completely misunderstood my point.

Your comment was that your GS300SE is sluggish around corners, yes? The opposite of a J22.