New Honda Civic

Is the gear stick still in an odd looking place? The newest car to the market will always cause the most recent stir, earlier in the year I was fortunate enough to be in the market for a new vehicle, Like you Ihad the choice of several and after careful consideration of various factors , opted for the Golf, still no regrets......

Yes, The new Civic here in the states is also a great improvement. Still waiting to see the new Civic Si though.. Scott

Andy Hewitt ( snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Bloody spammers.

You know the new Astra isn't all that bad, either, amazingly. If you like toys and park on street, the electrically folding mirrors are great. If you really like toys, there's even the option of active suspension of sorts and the 150 bhp 1.9TD is a good engine.

Christian.

^^^^

Fiat, ITYM.

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Fiat and Ford made a formal announcement yesterday that the next Cinque and Ka will be developed by Fiat "with Ford help" from the current Panda. Due

Old news. I first mentioned that somewhere on Usenet a good few months ago.

The only thing of worth I can see Ford bringing to the party is money.

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Oh, indeed. But the formal press release was yesterday.

D'you think it might interfere with the Fiat-GM diseasel deal? Or the PSA-Ford diseasel JV? Or the Fiat-PSA van JV? Or the Renault/Nissan/GM van deal?

Complicated industry, isn't it?

I think GM will be looking for a new diesel engine and Fiat /Alfa will be looking for a new supplier for 4 and 6 pot petrol lumps.

Can't see any other way out, as I can't see GM being to happy with the JTD ending up in a Ford, meaning the deal will have to end.

No, it's more normal now.

Erm, I'm not choosing the Civic, I work for Honda, and was simply offering a little insight to this newsgroup (seeing as I've contributed for a number of years).

We're not slated to see a 3 door Civic for another 2 years.

Damned excellent engineering quality though.

That and the best chassis guru in the business - Richard Parry-Jones.

Ka - better handling than any small Fiat Fiesta - better handling than any small Fiat Focus - better ride / handling than anything else in its group Mondeo - better ride / handling than anything else in its group

Yup, I'm sure they just wanted the money. Like f*ck.

Crap. The Fiats are easily a match for Fords.

Not any more mate. The new Civic will piss on anything out there now.

LOL.

Ford don't, but Fiat are desperate.

Marea HLX, Bravo HGT, new Panda, MkI Punto (which blew everything else in it's class away for many years), Stilo Abarth is a cracker.

OK, so, generally, the best Fiats have been the performance models in the range.....

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If you'd said that in the 70s I'd have pissed myself laughing.

See, now, if I'm going to compromise on driving experience by not having something quick and Italian, those damped grab handles / ash tray lid, blue dials and nice fabrics / soft touch plastics make all the difference.

Um, the 155 has a damped ashtray....

-- Pete M

Alfa 155 Ford Capri (still broked) Porsche 911 3.2 (For Sale - ebay soon) COSOC #5 Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain

Does it work properly, though? - I had to attach little pieces of velcro to mine to stop it dropping down every time I hit a bump in the road.

Yeah, even the light works. Then again, everything works on my 155 excluding the remote locking, and there's no way I'm paying Alfa £800 to fix that.