Please explain this emission result

I have a Toyota Carina E (petrol, 1995). It failed the MOT's emission test. The results are listed below and would like your expert opinion as to what do you think is wrong.

200k Miles on the clock, runs perfectly well. Good mpg. The expensive lambda sensor is 3 yrs old. Engine type 4A-FE. The cat was hot when tested. No engine check light flashing on the dashboard. Slight vibration on the wheel at 70 MPH.

What if i just take the air filter element out for the emission test? It worked for my D reg Micra EVERY time. Anyony tried it with these morden ECU cars ?

Thank you in advance.

Oil temp >= 60 C cooling fan cut in

Fast idle Test: FAIL

Engine Speed 2350-2650 Rpm 2400 Rpm Pass CO:

Reply to
johnsmile123
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get it hot (oil temp should be 80) and retest.

Also check for even the slightest leak on the exhaust.

Reply to
mrcheerful

Why? The lambda was under 1 for both tests.

John

Reply to
John Greystrong

Take it for a proper thrash. Oil temp over 100. Revving it hard in every gear and then slowing down and going back through the gears. Then take it for a retest.

Reply to
Doki

because exhaust leaks confuse the lambda sensor

Reply to
mrcheerful

Yeahbut if the exhaust was leaking that much it would show in the lambda reading. Wouldn't it? And surely it would have to be a leak prior to the lambda sensor to confuse it and they're fairly rare.

John

Reply to
John Greystrong

No, a leak anywhere can confuse things, it is presumably due to backpressure variations.

I have seen a reading change simply by adding a little gun-gum !!

Reply to
mrcheerful

Fred > test.

200 quid for a Lambda sensor?

WTF?! - most motor factors will sell you one for around 30 quid.

Most expensive one I've ever had was a very specific Alfa Romeo sensor for the catalysed version of the old all-alloy twincam / twinspark lumps

- cost around 60 quid.

We've already established you run a slightly dodgy operation, but that's just taking the piss.

Reply to
SteveH

Oh dear, If you are lucky it will only be the £200 Lambda sensor , if you are unlucky it will also be the ECU like the last one I did.

Reply to
Fred

£260 pound for a Toyota one we replaced last week, genuine only & some of the after market ones you have to chop & refit the old plug onto the new sensor with the fitting kit you get, never been keen on that.
Reply to
reg

That looks like it's cold. What's the actual oil temperature? The coolin= g =

fan cuts in before the oils hot or the cats working properly. & taking t= he =

air filter out won't make any difference.

Reply to
Duncan Wood

SteveH ( snipped-for-privacy@italiancar.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Steve,

It's not the first time I've heard that Toyota use odd Lambdas, which cost an arm, a leg and a first born.

I'm rather more surprised that nobody's picked up on the OP's suggestion that pulling the air filter might work - AFAIK that really only works on diseasels, and even then only when the air filter's well overdue for binning.

Reply to
Adrian

Actually, it appears that Toyota did use a stupid proprietory sensor in a lot of their cars.

Fuck me. Fred was right about something.

First time for everything, I suppose.

Reply to
SteveH

Excellent, where can I buy one? You should see the bloody mess my firstborn makes of her bedroom. :-)

Reply to
Vim Fuego

Vim Fuego ( snipped-for-privacy@fastmail.fm) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Sounds like you need to be selling the firstborn, not buying.

Toyotas are easy to find.

Reply to
Adrian

Still a surprise though.

My Toyota had plugs that didn't fit anything else and where you had to take the whole air intake system apart to get to two of the plugs.

Did they leave routes through to the plugs when they realised that as they designed it? No, they fitted stupid 60,000 mile platinum plugs instead.

IIRC they hold the World's entire stock in Japan and when a dealer orders them they are airfreighted in...

Reply to
PC Paul

You're an obnoxious little f*ck with only a numptys grasp of mechanics, I thought you were a fool but after your recent comments I now know.

Reply to
Fred

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