Re: My first diesel car.

Sep 08, 2003 10 Replies


Hi


>
> I have recently bought my first diesel engined car, Rover 420 SDI.
> After years with petrol models I am not sure what to listen for as
> regards unusual noises from the engine. How can you tell if a tappet > is rattling etc.
>
> Thanks for any helpful replies.

You probably can't, over the general noise & clatter. I appreciate that diesels are more sophisticated and much quieter these days, but having driven diesel Transits as part of my engineering job since the seventies, I wouldn't even consider a diesel powered car. Also, diesel fuel is messy and it stinks. I prefer not to hear my engine when stopped at traffic lights and I'm quite willing to pay the extra fuel cost for the privilege. If you want economy and low emission, get an LPG powered vehicle. as Jeremy Clarkson once commented - "They're OK for farm machinery".


Terry D.


Wouldn't worry too much about the engine. Even a half-decent maintained

420 SDi one should clock 200,000 miles. One of the main failing points on that car is front brake discs warping.

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Best advice I can give is to listen for changes, generally the newer the car the harder to tell what's happening with it. IMHO.

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I can hardly hear my diesel at traffic lights but then I've got air con so don't need to have the windows open and the sound deadening is really good.

"Terry D" mumbled:

How is it that no one seems able to fill up their cars without getting diesel on their hands? I must have a magic touch of something 'cos I don't get this unless I'm silly and try to get it brim-full.

Wouldn't worry too much about the engine. Even a half-decent maintained

With regard to the front brake discs warping, I never had trouble on the

420sdi that i had but on the older 418sldt that i had before it........

Cure........ Go to PartCo and get (cant rememebr if its Mintex or Girling) discs from them, they carry a 3 yr anti warp warranty........ at least of they do warp u get the replacements free.

Also i think the problem was cos some people were supplied the wrong discs for the car, there are 2 or 3 types for the rover and you need to make sure you have the corrct type

Steve

Have you ever tried using the disposable gloves provided.

They do the job pretty well.

-- James Smith

I can also manage it, and so deliberately spill it on my hands and feet - it's better than aftershave! :)

Transit van, diesel car, Transit van, diesel car . . . bit of a difference, eh?

Ahhh, lovely noise. All liquids are messy, but really, it's down to the person filling the tank, not the liquid itself.

Diesel hangs around when spilt, whereas petrol evaporates.

Are there any cars where you cannot hear your engine when parked up at the traffic lights?

Okay, the Lexus LS430 does a bloody good job, as I suppose will the odd Rolls-Royce.

And what does Jeremy know?

I applaud your jaundiced opinion of diesel cars . . . I hope that more and more people think like this . . . so the value of used Ford TDCI Mondeos and Focii plummets, so I can afford to have _both) in a couple of years time.

But seriously, you're out dated. It was once fashionable to dislike diesels, and some people are happy to be deliberately unfashionable, like Mr. Clarkson. But until you've tried a smattering of modern diesels, you can't comment on what they're like.

Examples of stuff to try: the Focus and Mondeo TDCi, anything with a BMW badge and ending in "d," and the Rover 75 diesel versions (either). Then try the equivalent petrol model on price.

That's not the problem. I *always* use the gloves for one very simple reason - The Diesel Fairy. She swoops all over the world, applying diesel to pump handles. Think about it - it makes sense. If no-one is making a giant cockup of filling their cars then there must be some reason why diesel pumps have greasy, stinky handles.

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They're a completely different breed. It's a bit like thinking that a M3 BMW is only a bit quicker than a 1960s Mini Cooper.

2 years of deisel motoring and never had an oily hand when refuelling. I now prefer the smeel to the heady benzene blend of petrol fumes. It's a sort of heavy engineering smell, biodeisel smell even better!

Good for you. I'd rather everyone else ignored the buggers too, that keep the insurance costs down and save money on the weekly fuel bill to boot. There again i don't like cars that sound like they're powered by a computer controlled electric motor with a mind of it's own so each to their own!

JH

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