Yes, I see your point. But I use homebrew diesel and there's no tax on that.
I was more concerned about the technical aspects of how the fuel would work
in the engine or whether any harm would be done.
From time to time, I have to defuel a jet and have a lot of messy jet fuel
that I cannot put back into the airplane.
According to my manual, Jet A is an acceptable alternative in an
emergency, and is also an acceptable thinner for cold temperatures. So
are kerosene and unleaded gasoline. Interestingly enough, neither #2
nor #1 heating oils are acceptable!
Randall Brink wrote:
Canola oil? With price of diesel here in Canada it's going to be cheaper to
drive on that. Just look up biodiesel, then go to
restaurants and ask them if they would be interested in a free used cooking oil
recycling service. I went up to the owner of a local
Popeye's today and he immediately said yes, maybe I should check how much he
pays for having that old oil removed, maybe I'll charge
him less and make some money while I'm driving for free :-)
Well... Maybe free after you spend a precious day off driving around
town collecting filthy, greasy oil from back alleys. And then filter all
the nasty, rancid french fries and chicken necks out of grease once you
figure out a way to warm it up enough to flow on a fine Canadian March
day. And then spend a few more days in your secret laboratory (which
you spent hundreds of dollars and hours assembling) treating the grease
with DANGEROUS acids, alcohols, bases and indicators (all of which cost
money), while hoping all the while that your effort doesn't end up
making useless "Jello-diesel" instead of biodiesel, because the
capricious Biodiesel gods have decided to punish you randomly for your
unintentional indiligence or negligence.
All this for "free"? Just to end up saving 10 or 15 bucks on a tank of
I burn a tank a week in my 300SD and that is a LOT. I spend $50 a week,
or about $2500 a year on fuel. Making the same amount of biodiesel
would cost me much more than $500 just in chemicals, fuel, and
utilities. And at LEAST 8 hours a week away from my family or work
fooling with the nasty grease and its various residues.
This means that I would, in effect, be paying myself MUCH less than
$2000/400 = $5.00 an hour to make biodiesel.
I would be better off financially COOKING at Popeye's for minimum wage
eight hours a week instead of picking up the grease there!
Honestly, I think the most efficient way to support biodiesel and to
help the movement is to invest money in biodiesel companies instead of
starting a homebrew operation.
Unless you just want a hobby, that is. I am the first to admit that it
makes a cool and useful (but hardly profitable) hobby...
Your points are very valid, and your post hilarious! If you think about it
that way, it makes no sense to "brew". Better tgo put the effort into beer
I totally agree with your statement about supporting the biodiesel industry,
and would add one additional point: Buy biodiesel. Find a source--It took
some doing for me to find one in my locality but I did find one source, and
use it whenever possible.
I agree, but that's not how I go about it. The Popeye source is about 100L per
week, MORE than enough for me, and it doesn't have to
be messy at all. Just switch containers with them and that's it. ? Chemicals?
What for? Just filter it good and add kleen-flo. Some
guy actually wants to buy some from me, we'll see :-)
NO treatment, just good filtration, looking into setting up an efficient system,
like Paul Valois said, it can get messy, IF you do
it wrong. I personally am just starting on USED oil, till now it's been NEW
cooking oil, which costs as much as diesel. Taking cues
from another guy who has been running his VW TDI for years on straight used
cooking oil, it has to be filtered well of course,
though from the oil I picked up yesterday it looks like new anyways. Of course,
a micron filter will see much more :-)
Of course, there has to be a regular source, NOT a problem here at least, like I
said, on my walk to work, I setup in 2 minutes a
supply of 100L per week, I will supply them with 40L-50L containers (which they
will pay with a non-refundable deposit, beats paying
to have your old oil removed) with a primary filter, don't want to deal with no
Will post how everything goes, it doesn't look like there's many people on the
group who do this, I'll do the experimenting and let
people know :-)
Not yet! :-) I know a family that works for the company that handles all the
restaurant waste oil in Vancouver, they have a lot of
the processed stuff, I might hook myself with the clean oil, or install a kit
We're in Vancouver, BC, NO winter here, in fact this is vancouver in
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