Oh, and by the way

Is that all your Mac can display?

Well there's a good advert. We don't even make basic connectivity software.

No Panther and Tiger.

Eh?

People who use Usenet are in the vast minority of internet users, there's plenty of free Mac clients out there, all of which are better suited to Usenet use than Outlook Express, which is a decent email client with Usenet tagged on as an afterthought.

It's like saying Apple should bundle an IRC client with every machine.

Then you're posting bollocks to support your Windows advocacy.

Shall we have a quick poll?

Who here is reading this with a VDU that can't show more than 80 characters? I can even read posts with longer than 80 characters on my phone without problems.

Nope all true, you just can't take it when reality doesn't fit with your fantasy world, just like when you feel that everyone must follow football despite all the evidence saying you are wrong.

'MS said it's OK, so it must be right'.

You don't appear to have a problem complying with bottom posting, so why is adjusting line length to the usual convention of 72 chracters a problem for you?

Yes, of course.

I use OSX every day, my wife uses OSX every day, my print / file server runs OSX. None of these machines need a reboot between OS / security updates. But, obviously, the vast experience I have of a totally stable home network, mainly running on OSX counts for nothing, because you've had a bit of a play with OSX from time to time.

And yes, I do have a Windows machine here, too. It's my media server. That's all it does, because it's *far* too much hassle to do anything else with it.

No "Steve says it's wrong so it must be right."

I use OSX every day and it's Finder app is too unstable to use for a main OS. So I'll put you nicely back into your fantasy world and go and live in reality.

bollocks

I'd *love* to know what you're doing with Finder for it to be 'unstable'.

Google 'Usenet 72 character' so you appear less ignorant in future postings.

You press the monitor button, if you're using an Apple monitor.

Five minutes to put a hand on the back and press a button? I'm scared.

Richard

It isn't true. Christ, I swear people don't actually use computers; they just pretend to.

Richard (who uses a LOT of different machines, and I assure you, OS X is by far the most stable and complete modern OS).

Finder unstable? You're smoking crack, really. What the hell are you doing that is making Finder appear to be unstable.

Explain precisely where the issue is. Let's see what we can find out. Because I've got four OS X machines here and not one of them has issues with Finder.

Richard

Yes

If only.

Normalcy browsing a networked drive containing several hundred photos, not always the same folder/drive and it doesn't happen every time. (I am a member of the BFP to take lots of photos and have them across multiple folders, drivers and computers)

I open the networked folder (mapped). a few seconds later without displaying any of the contents the entire finder application crashes out leaving only the background wallpaper (the open finder windows, the dock bar all disappear along with the icons) a few seconds later finder restarts everything reappears until it opens the window that caused the crash and it starts over. It's not up long enough to do a force quit and doesn't display an error to help trace the problem. (It's not even as if all the networked folders are coming from the same computer or even all from windows.)

You didn't read the instructions then.

But even so, five minutes to find the power switch on something barely bigger than an external drive..?

You didn't read previous messages before replying then.

Top tip - never use Veet in the groinal area.

Yes that's right, I leapt straight in there rather than spend... five minutes... reading 'em. :-)

As for Macs, I like them but I also dislike them. If I bought one home, even the Mini, I'd be strung up by Charlie. I like their childish simplicity. Hey I have an Amiga too.

Is it safe to ask how you discovered this?