Ah, those Chinese transmissions...

I couldn't help but notice that the manual transmissions for the new
Mustangs were built in China. Didn't care for that, but thought that with
both Ford and Getrag overseeing production, it would be okay. Now I see a
number of complaints are popping up.
Read this on Fox news today:
"A FoxNews.com analysis of the recent NHTSA complaints indicates that a
number of the owners may not be aware of a special feature found on
V8-powered Mustangs that forces the transmission to shift directly from 1st
to 4th gear under light throttle application. This is intended to increase
fuel efficiency during the EPA fuel economy testing procedure and cannot be
turned off, but is overridden during hard acceleration. The manual
transmissions in the Chevrolet Corvette and Camaro SS, both built by a
different supplier, function in a similar way."
I haven't driven a manual transmission built since 1993, so I wondered about
this. How are today's stick shifts "forced" to go from 1st to 4th directly?
I thought the purpose of a manual transmission was to be manual.
dwight

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dwight
That has to mean auto or the new manual autos?? IOW the ones that are auto transmissions with flippy buttons on the steering wheel.
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WindsorFo
Oh, no. FoxNews.com absolutely knew that this story was about the Chinese-manufactured manual transmissions in the new V6 and V8 Ford Mustangs. There can be no confusion about automatic transmissions (domestically produced) or some slick new auto/manual hybrid that doesn't even come in a Mustang.
I'm absolutely certain that FoxNews.com did a thorough analysis of the subject matter and concluded that the problem lay not with the transmission, itself, but with the drooling morons who drive these cars, unaware that the manual transmission has the built-in 1st-to-4th gear override.
dwight
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dwight
A "drooling moron" responds. :-('
Here's a mix of what I've read and experienced. (I need to do some more research.)
Read: The trans itself is solid -- it's a stout piece. It was designed in Germany, but it is put together in China. (But, hell, what isn't built/made in China these days? Ever surveyed the belongings in your residence?)
Read: The linkage [between the shifter & trans] is long.
Experienced: The shifter/shifting is sweet, though, on occasion, there is some "stickiness".
Read: The computer controlled 1st-4th gas-saving feature (something GM's Corvette and F-bodies have/had.) is on [some] of these cars. The owners manual reads: "Skip Shift (if equipped) (V8 engines only)"
Experienced: My trans has never forced me to go 1st to 4th. So mine, obviously, wasn't equipped with it. Though I often do do 1 to 4, but ONLY because the 5.0 mill is so strong that in average/normal driving you really don't need to use all the gears.
Patrick
Oh, T-Frog, you tune-in to Fox news?
Reply to
patrick.mckenzie84
Every review I've read about the new Mustangs has praised the manual transmission. The problems reported seem to arise after time, and seem to be heat related. (Ford issued a TSB to replace the current fluid with one that is more resistant to heat problems.)
Yes, I do tune in to Fox news on occasion. This came up when I saw the reports pop up in my Google News, and I followed the link to FoxNews.com. That last paragraph (above) made me laugh. "Thorough analysis," indeed.
I watch Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, and even the PBS NewsHour. I'm not satisfied with one source of my news, and always seek out the opposing point of view (and remember the days when there was no opposing point of view to "news"). That's why I like Good News - it brings up all kinds of things.
dwight
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dwight
Ah okay, so from what you write I have to infer that "force" would mean the gate was somehow blocked to anyplace other than 4th gear from first. I was picturing it shifting its self.
And keep in mind that although many of us are not, or not quite morons that in my experience it seems that the majority of the world population is. Therefore by default the majority of drivers including those driving Mustangs probably are, by definition, morons.
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WindsorFo
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:49:21 -0400, "dwight" wrote:
SNIP!!!!!
Good for you, Dwight. I applaud people who don't listen to just one source whether it's left leaning or right leaning. Unfortunately, while I do likewise, because I lean toward the conservative side, I am always accused of only listening to FoxNews. It's as if a conservative can not listen to many sources and make up one's own mind on an issue. Yet, when I ask my more liberal friends where they get their news, it comes down to PBS and MSNBC. That they would not be caught dead monitoring a topic from all angles before they decide. Thay are not all that way, but a very large percentage of them are. Yet, they can not see that what they do is the same as what they accuse me of doing. Anymore, I don't think any news source is truely trustworthy. I'm not eeven sure about National Geographic anymore. Even Penthouse is questionable. LOL
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D E Willson
I've experienced that. but it seems to be going away as things break in.
I've had it skip shift on me, but only because it was particularly slow acceleration. It feels like something seems to move out to block the gate to second and guides the shifter into fourth. On acceleration that slow it really doesn't matter.
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Brent
All those that make up mainstream news like Ds and Rs are in agreement on all the important principles. It's just in the little things they differ from each other.
Jon Stewart points out how the news media pretends that other ideas don't even exist:
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Brent
2012 GT premium, brembos, glass roof.. 3.73, misc other things. had for just a few days... ordered it months ago.
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Brent
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Whew... I don't know how I missed that one.
What color did you get?
Patrick
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patrick.mckenzie84

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