Yes, brand-spanking new. Yes, never used. If fact, the '67 Mustang is so new it was built in 2004. Confused?
Okay, I'm lying, but only a little. You can't buy a brand-new '67 Mustang, yet, but you can buy a brand-new '69 Camaro. Word is they're building '69 Camaros now, then they'll add '67 Mustangs to the lineup, possibly followed by '69 Mustangs and maybe '70 'Cudas. Who's "they", you ask? "They" is Classic Automotive Restoration Specialists (CARS).
We're talking full steel bodies, put together better than the originals. Cost? Try $12,000 USD for a bare shell convertible with doors and a decklid, but no front clip. Hardtops will be availible in
2005 and will only run a few thousand more. The bodys are primed and dipped and come with a lifetime warranty against rust and corrosion.
CARS will even offer complete, running-and driving, painted convertibles in bare bones trim for $40,000 USD.
Wanna know more? Check out the lastest issue of Hot Rod magazine.
If they are producing full running cars, how do they do that legally? Would it not be required to meet some emissions or mileage standards or some such thing? Or do they jsut pay a large fee for not meeting requirements, like some auto manufacturers do when they don't meet requirements? How does that work?
I've wondered the same thing about the new CSX-9000 (correct if wrong) alum. skin, 427-powered, side-pipe-having Cobras. Are the titled 1965 or current year? As such, would they have the same emissions req's (i.e., none) as 1965s? What's the deal with that? Do they have the same carbureted engines, same Shelby firing orders, same 42-gal gas tanks, same wonderfully barge-like fuel economy in this market?
I know Ol' Shel was trying to do this for years, and I guess finally did. I just wondered, once I heard about that, and this 67 Mustang and
69 Camaro deal to boot (didn't know about the 32 Ford, imagine it's a fave of the hot rod crowd) how this all works in terms of safety and emissions requirements, not to mention parts, service and support... if it weren't viable for the marketplace, I'm sure it wouldn't be happening. I just am curious how it's being handled...
It's as if we've come full-circle...
Boomers in 500 SEL Mercs and M5s and Boxsters (after a 0-60 with the Boxster, not really a huge challenge) sincerely compliment me on my car, and ask all sorts of questions... people say "nice 'old-school' Mustang". Thanks... and I was admiring your 454 SS Impala...
Notice I never mentioned a ricer in this... if they compliment me, I at very best give a smileless, curt nod to them with their wing-ed, "Wannabe Racing" be-stickered, 20-in-wheeled shitboxes with big stupid tailpipes.
Pulling 9 grand on the tach? Ooooh... 5 grand on mine = you lose. And yes, I heard you miss that shift while trying to powershift to beat me up that ramp... I was waiting for a pop and an oil spill
:)
Anyway, just wondering if someone knew the legal and logisitical aspects of how this is planned to be done... I don't imagine a reproduced 67 Mustang will have the value of a nice original, but irony may eventually come to haunt us...
Yes they are! I got mine 6 weeks ago. It came in a BIG wooden crate. The amount of labor saved over a total resto is immeasurable and the finished car should be better than a fresh-off-the-assembly-line vehicle. I'm pretty excited to be building a "new" Camaro convertible. :P
I was wondering when/if the classic 'Stangs would appear. If the Camaro works out well, I'd certainly try building a new / old Mustang convertible. The thing that discourages me most about the restoration of an old car, (even a "rust free" vehicle) is the usually extensive prep / repair of something that's been out in the weather for 40 years. The availability of new bodies to start with brings a huge smile to my face. :)
If the Calif law has not changed... the emmission requirements are based on the engine year, NOT the body year. I recall this being pushed in the case of a 72 VW which had a verified 59 engine, and DMV eventually was forced to accept it as a "59" bug. And no reason why it would not work the same as any other startup company like DeLorean or whatever... Factory Five. I thing fed law requires the frame be stamped with a "vin" number and that's what DMV uses as the registration number.
If there wasn't some way accepted nati>> >>
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1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2 Vintage Burgundy w/ Black Std Interior
289 ci 4v V8 oem A Code Dual Exhaust C4 Auto converted to AODE
8" Trak Lok Vintage 40 wheels BF Goodrich gForce T/A 225/50ZR-16 KDWS tires Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; ) Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations Cool, CA
Just saw something in last month's Mustang Times. You can get a brand new 69 Shelby GT3500E directly from Shelby. You provide them with a standard 67-69 Coupe and they do a complete retrofit. You even get new matching VINs indicating it's a real Shelby.
No, I brought up this possibilty years ago right here in this group, citing the all-new-steel Street Rod industry as a forebearer of what will happen when it gets to hard to find good 60's cars. I hate being right. No I don't.
Spell "bodies" right. The current misspelling has gone rampant over the last year to the point where the damn ad proofreaders for the publishing companies can't get it right.
They are considering dipping, but right now spraying, according to the article.
Time for me to stock up on Arizona rust-free originals, so I can sell Chevys to finance my Fords.
I have copied and pasted California Health & Safety Code section
44017.4 below, in all its weirdness.
For those with limited attention spans, it says that when you want to title a kit car, you first must take it to a smog referee inspection station. The referee is to decide what model year the car most closely resembles. That decision determines what emissions requirements the car has to pass.
It's the owner's choice whether that decision is based on the "vehicle," or on the motor. Thus, if you have a '69 Camaro with a 3rd gen LS6 in it, you'd want to use the body style. If you had a '69 Camaro with a '67 L88 in it, you'd want to use the engine. And if you have an engine that resembles no model year -- say a twin turbo 383 mouse -- you automatically get the 1960 model year! The referee puts a sticker on the car to memorialize his decision.
And get this: regardless of how many new kit cars go through this process, only the first 500 applicants per year actually get a registration from the DMV! I wonder if they've ever exceeded 500 in a year. Sure would suck to be Mr. 501.
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Health & Safety Code section 44017.4
(a) Upon registration with the Department of Motor Vehicles, a passenger vehicle or pickup truck that is a specially constructed vehicle, as defined in Section 580 of the Vehicle Code, shall be inspected by stations authorized to perform referee functions. This inspection shall be for the purposes of determining the engine model-year used in the vehicle or the vehicle model-year, and the emission control system application. The owner shall have the option to choose whether the inspection is based on the engine model-year used in the vehicle or the vehicle model-year.
(1) In determining the engine model-year, the referee shall compare the engine to engines of the era that the engine most closely resembles. The referee shall assign the 1960 model-year to the engine in any specially constructed vehicle that does not sufficiently resemble a previously manufactured engine. The referee shall require only those emission control systems that are applicable to the established engine model-year and that the engine reasonably accommodates in its present form.
(2) In determining the vehicle model-year, the referee shall compare the vehicle to vehicles of the era that the vehicle most closely resembles. The referee shall assign the 1960 model-year to any specially constructed vehicle that does not sufficiently resemble a previously manufactured vehicle. The referee shall require only those emission control systems that are applicable to the established model-year and that the vehicle reasonably accommodates in its present form.
(b) Upon the completion of the inspection, the referee shall affix a tamper-resistant label to the vehicle and issue a certificate that establishes the engine model-year or the vehicle model-year, and the emission control system application.
(c) The Department of Motor Vehicles shall annually provide a registration to no more than the first 500 vehicles that meet the criteria described in subdivision (a) that are presented to that department for registration pursuant to this section. The 500-vehicle annual limitation does not apply to the renewal of registration of a vehicle registered pursuant to this section.
Ad proofreaders, huh? Wow! It's nice to know I'm at their level, and I rarely proofread my stuff. But I'll work at it... won't promise perfection though.
I picked up the magazine yesterday. Wow! '69 camaro convertibles, then the hardtop, then a '67 Mustang fastback. Discussions have already begun on '69 Mach 1's and '70 Cudas. What was that? * '69 Mach 1's * !!!!! That's what I want! This opens up more options. Wow! A *new* '69 Mach 1 with a *new* aluminum 427 sideoiler with a *new* 6 speed T-56 tranny with a *new* and improved suspension with *new* four wheel disc brakes with a *new* sound system. It's, it's, it's , it's , it's too much! I think I'm going to f.a..i...n....t...........
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