Will the Volt make it?

I dont see that it has to be all electric to be successful. a) and c) certainly have to be there, though.

You will eventually

You have to go all the way

Anything else than all electric is no change

Try to keep up, ALL of the Japanese manufactures are subsides by the Japanese government and have been ever since WWII.

Anything else than all electric is no change

But I have been wrong before.

Especially when one considers the Volt is good, all eclectically motivated and more than competitively priced with mid-sized hybrids. ;)

You are confused like our friend Canuck57. Unlike a hybrid the Volt is motivated by its eclectic motors only, dummy

You will eventually

You have to go all the way

Anything else than all electric is no change

The average trip distance, for the average driver in the US, is LESS than 40 miles daily and the Volt can travel that far on battery power alone. However the Volt can travel much father, but the generator will come on when the battery pack starts to loose voltage at around 40 miles and begin to use some fuel.

If one has say a one way 17 mile commute, he would never need to use any fuel and recharge overnight.

I have invested in a company that is working to installing plug-in "recharging stations." at malls, motels, apartment complexes etc., where rechargeable vehicle owners can plug in their vehicle at a parking meter type station, swipe a credit card and drive off.

Many old car companies are trying to spread FUD and call hybrids electric but they are not.

There are already quite a few electrics that can go quite a distance on one charge.

There are a growing number of electrical posts where you can charge .

A quick charge stations will also come.

All in all there is a massive change about to happen.

The technology is here but there is a need for a new mindset and more production capacity.

The change is similar as going from mainframes to PCs.

The big expensive technology is being replaced by standardized small units.

The old car companies do not like this at all and are fighting it all the way.

The massive profits of every car from the past is history and very much better affordable transport is coming.

Agreed.

But how can 1 and 3 be achieved? Have two power plants to maintain, gasoline one and a decaying consumbale battery pack. I hear they are $10,000 retail. Even if you get them at government subsidized pricing you are looking at $5,000 ever 3 years.

Cheaper to buy a Zenn or get the representatives to let Tata Nanos in for $4,500 loaded. I hear China has a 4x4 for under $10k.

The number one cost of a vehicle is depreciation, not fuel. What do you think a 3 year old Volt is going to be worth?

$1.298

But it can't travel at full speed, the generator does not crank enough for 65 mph. And it can't charge it's batteries so if you need a quick

And that assumes the consumble battery is brand new. 2 or 3 years later...anyones guess but given they use a off shoot of laptop batteries, 2 hours new isn't like 10 minutes in three years.

And that is with A/C and lights off on a flat road.

Bet inside of 6 months the battery looses the ability to hold a charge enough that will not be true.

Another huge problem. If just 10% of the people chraged cars at night, the power grid would fail. The raw cost of materials for batteries will skyrocket.

Guaranteed loser.

Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL

You are confused again, you don't have your facts correct as usual. LOL

Last I heard, $40,000 to $50,000 was the price tag.

Not very competative. If you bought a 50 mpg Tata nano for $4500 with A/C and say someone else bought a Volt for $40,000 lets look at a 3 year cost for say 45,000 miles bully maintained.

Tata Nano:

$400 in oil, maintenance. (User servicable) $3000 in fuel, 45 mpg @ $3 gallon $4500 capital cost

------- $7,900 $900 residual value after depreciation

------- $7000 TCO not including brakes and tires Cost per mile, 15.55 cents

Volt (Government Motors) $800 in service excluding consumbal battery (not user servicable) $7000 replacement after $3000 credit on new battery $1800 for gasoline @ 75 mpg average @ $3 gallon $1686 electric tax out, 562 charges @ 20kwh each over 45000 and 15 cents per kwh $40,000 capital cost interest and carring charges out

-------- $51286 $15000 residual value

-------- $36286 TCO not including brakes and tires Cost per mile, 80.63 cents

Hey, everythhing government costs more what can I say... they just keep on sucking.

GM is so full of s*it on this, I will bet GM will not make money on the Volt ever.

I was easy on GM, I didn't get into A/C and heat that the Nano has, or the insurance differences. Or the fact is if you go 41 miles, the last mile will not be full freeway speed for the Volt.

The only reason to buy one is a museum item. "The Car no One Bought That Government Made". Either that or GM will need another $60,000++ per vehicle of taxpayers wealth like they did in 2009 to make them move, litterally.

GM, they keep > Especially when one considers the Volt is good, all eclectically motivated

Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL

Who knows, maybe even be a liability as that much toxic waste in the batteries, might have to have the government pick up the tab to dispose of them.

Wonder how much this farce is going to cost taxpayers?

Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL