Slow 1/4's for the 05's??

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 08:35:56 -0500, "tony kujawa" wrote something wonderfully witty:

It may be a whole bunch of things. What if the guy's running them didn't know what the hell they were doing? What if it was their first time at the track? Even if they had experience making runs, more then likely this was the first time they have had these particular cars at the track.

I am not going to go look-up the raw hp numbers on the cars, but the Fourth Gen's (depending on the exact model) used de-tuned Corvette Engines (LS-1). Also just because you get a T/A you may not get the right T/A. If your looking for balls out, you'll want one with the WS6 package on it. Ask yourself this question as well. Do I want a

I guess you have a point, but .60-.90sec. off what the mags are runnung is a huge difference.

A regular T/A and Z-28 put out 305, and the WS6 and SS put out 320. Not a huge difference, worth a tenth or maybe 2. These run from high to low 13's depending on driver and tranny. You are correct on these cars having the s*it beat out of them, but I am looking for one with under 20K miles and under $20K. I really do like the new Mustang and have yet to test drive one, but I have driven the LS-1's. Well, there is 4" of F-ing snow on the ground here now, so a test drive is useless. Anyway, there are no shortages of them around me, the small hick town dealer has 6 or 7 of them sitting in their lot.

Oh no ! Its the 99 Cobra "where did my horsepower go" scenario. Of course in that case the mags complained about the slow 1/4.

Well I don't know what they are doing on the 1/4 mile track but they are tearing up Daytona!

They weren't "de-tuned". They used the same motors. The dyno tests proved this years ago. I guess no chevy can have more power on paper than the Corvette. The '01's and 02's benefited from better clutches (from LS6 powered vettes) and slightly more power (better intakes)

Nahhh. As long as it's got the LS1 it's good to go. Firebird or T/A. I think the T/A's are heavier. More show, less go.

They all don't get ths s*it beaten out of them. Nobody ever beat the s*it out of my stang or camaro. Including me.

In the last 6 months I've seen I think 4 unsold CamBirds. 3- 02' WS6 TransAm Yellow/black convertables and 1- 02 Z28/SS? red/silver. I looked at two of the T/As one of each transmission type. The sticker shock was too much for me though. I didn't even go inside to see what kind of deal they might have had. BTW the widow stickers MSRP was $40,000.

...Ron

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I dynoed a brand new WS-6 and made 333 at the wheels and dynoed and brand new SS and got 331 at the wheels. You aren't far off, but I can't imagine there being a 11 to 13 horsepower difference between cars.

I have also seen good drivers get mid twelves out of the SS's and high 12's out of the WS-6's.

Don Manning

These run from high to low 13's

Tony, here's the story.

A pure *stock* 5-speed car in good air and low elevation should run high 13's at about 102-3, so a strong running LS1 twin will eat one up. That said, the new GT Mustangs have computers that are programmed "very soft." A custom chip REALLY wakes these cars up! Trap speeds can jump up 5-8 mph. So, here's what you do, buy a new GT, add a custom chip and give LS1 cars fits, all day long.

Patrick '93 Cobra

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:49:57 -0500, "tony kujawa" wrote something wonderfully witty:

Don't believe everything you read and only half of what you see.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:52:00 -0600, "2.3Sleeper" wrote something wonderfully witty:

And the Vette is/was 350. Regardless of what the other poster said, the LS-1's & LT-1's that were used in the F-bodies were detuned via intake & exhaust manifold changes.

No the difference is between the non ram-air cars (Z-28 & T/A) and the ram-air cars (SS & T/A). Anyway, the LS-1 IS a killer engine regardless.

I can see that. Putting a set of SLP headers and exhuast on the car netted roughly 30 rwhp.

Don Manning

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:08:50 -0600, "2.3Sleeper" wrote something wonderfully witty:

Which should have brought it right up to around the Vette's numbers.

GM isn't going to let any of their other vehicles exceed the HP numbers of their marque vehicle when coming out of the factory. However, as you found out it is a rather easy process to get the numbers the engine is capable of back with fairly minor changes.

I don't know, guy. All the dyno pulls I've seen have the numbers of the F-bodies and Vette as being identical. The 'Vette's better weight distro and lighter weight are what keep it in front of the Cambirds.

Patrick '93 Cobra

Not to be a smartass, but 20,000 / .25 = potentially 80,000 1/4 mile runs! :)

I know :{

Is that number with or without wheel spin?