Sedans - Infiniti G35 vs. Acura 3.2 TL vs. Lexus IS300

The GPS on the Avalon use a hand held remote control, I'm not making that up they really use a hand held remote, it's the most dangerous thing I've ever seen in a car.

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:00:15 -0500, "David Geesaman" removed the duct tape and proclaimed:

But my Acura dealer has fantastic coffee. Little individual pouches and all.

-- I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.

That depends on whether you have anything of value--like a house--that you wouldn't want to lose in a lawsuit. I have $500,000/$1,000,000 bodily injury plus a $3,000,000 umbrella policy and am thinking of increasing it. Not because I have $3,000,000 someone could come and get, but because if a judgement exceeded $3,000,000 then they could come and get what I do have and at my age (69) it's too late to start over.

Ten years without an accident is nothing, by the way.

My wife has never had an accident (except being hit from behind at stop signals) in the 30 years she has been driving. It's been a couple years longer for me, but I had two in my first years.

Mike

Okay, you win. ;)

I've always wondered about people who get hit from behind. I knew a guy in HS that was rear-ended 5 times, twice at the same intersection. never his fault. But he just seemed to have this magnet.

now a neighbor's kid has the same prob. Has a nice vintage 1960's car and that thing has been rear ended 4 times now at a stoplight. All times, he was sitting at a red light and bam!

Weird.

Assuming the kid isn't making sudden stops, it could be that those center brake lights are a hazard for cars that *don't* have them. The approaching driver expects to see the center brake light and doesn't notice the tail lights--besides which, the brake lights on 60s cars were generally smaller and less bright than on today's cars.

Also, some cars just seem to attract trouble. In the 1960s I had a VW Beetle and people were always hitting the rear fenders. I'd leave my car in a parking lot and return to find the fender dented. It seemed that people weren't able to judge where the fender was. It wasn't just my car: I noticed a lot of other Beetles with dented rear fenders.

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:47:16 GMT, "John Varela" removed the duct tape and proclaimed:

Today's drivers are also less bright.

-- I put 2 and 2 together and got 22.

I would say that over 75 % of rearend collisions are caused by or greatly contributed to the person in front stopping too fast. Whe I stop, I keep a good distance in front of me & look in my rear view mirror to avoid being rearended. Almost was coming home from work. I was watching the guy approach me & I moved slightly to the right & saw him suddenly veer to the left.

If I wasn't driving defensively then, I would've had my 6 month old TL smashed up.

Not true, it's mostly inattention of the person behind you that causes rearend. I was waiting at a light to change from Red to Green and the guy jumped the gun and hit me. Another one was when a tractor trailor in traffic said he didn't see my car because the sun was too bright, although I saw him talking on his CB when he hit me and thereafter when I came out of the car. He wasn't even inclined to come out and check to see if I'm ok. Too bad for non at fault accidents we have here in Ontario, I would have sued him big time.

I test drove the RL -- and that handles like a dream!! Lexus is ok, but the tranny issues are pissing me off.

Some are, but there is no such thing as "stopping too fast" under traffic laws. I have only been rear-ended once; I was sitting at the red light for some time. The guy in the rental car admitted he just wasn't paying attention. My wife was paused at a 4-way stop the last time she was hit. A drunk never even touched the brakes, according to witnesses. But it seems most of the ones I see (mainly after the fact) are in the middle of the road, when traffic slowed but the last guy didn't.

Following too closely certainly contributes to the toll. You can see it on the freeway, when a chain of fools slows a little bit at the front and the lack of reaction time builds it to a panic stop before it gets to the back.

Mike

On 12/17/2004 10:14 AM US(ET), Michael Pardee took fingers to keys, and typed the following:

Here's another one. Two cars stopped at a stop sign waiting for a gap in traffic to pull out. Both are looking down the road for the gap and estimating how fast to pull out when there is a gap coming up. The first guy starts to pull out. The second guy looks down the road to see if there is enough of a gap so he too can fit in, and seeing that it will be OK, starts to pull out. "Bang" The first guy had second thoughts and stopped. I was the second guy in that scenario.

Some 30 years ago my wife was the first person in exactly that scenario, except that the situation was pulling out of a parking lot instead of at a stop sign and the guy in the rear car was driving his newly restored Jaguar XK120 convertible. He was brokenhearted and she really felt guilty about it.

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All the TL info you could want and more at tl.acurazine.com

I test drove the G35 sedan and the IS300 this summer.

The G35 is a very nice fairly large sporty luxury sedan with a powerful engine, emphasis on the luxury, although some interior appointments detract from the luxury image. I think it is awkwardly styled. The IS is a sports sedan with a weak/poor mileage engine, excellent handling, a slightly stiff suspension and is on the small side. It's a boy-racer that needs another 50 hp to really work well. My guess is that the next iteration will get that power. The car books all say that the TL has too much power for FWD, you get torque steer, but is otherwise excellent. (I would not consider FWD on any sports sedan, so I never looked at it seriously.) If Honda put AWD on it, it would probably be the pick of the bunch. It's alooker, for sure.

You might also consider a lightly used BMW 330i in this price range. Would have lots of warranty left, plenty of room inside, best handling of all of them, great resale, good looks, and ample power. With the new Bangleized

Wait for the IS replacement and you might end up with the best of the bunch if Toyota gets serious about making a really great sports sedan.

Did you actually go drive a BMW before you wrote that? Because what you wrote makes zero sense. It just "ain't so".

Traffic came to a stop at the highway exit and a small truck following me couldn't stop, avoided my car by passing me on the right and over a pile of hard snow. His truck slowed down and momentarily tilted enough to brake the rear windshield of the car just ahead of me. The truck driver was French the other English . The English was hugging the French and shouting "You save my life" !!! Doesn't make sense to me but it's true. He, involuntarily, saved MY life.

Vlad