GP Electrical issue - 2000

Would someone who knows be so good as to explain where all (or as many as you know/are willing to explain) the main electrical grounds are on a 2000 GP GTP? I've got a bunch of accessories that all went out at once, and that's what I'm betting on. BTW: Checked the fuses (even under the hood) -- all good.

I have an Alldata subscription, but am no good at reading electrical diagrams.

If it helps, the accessories not working are: daytime running lights, power locks (though the relay under the dash clicks), radio (every aspect of it), lumbar adjustment, rear window defogger, and seat heater.

Everything else works fine, though I've had the infamous "rainwater onder the passenger floorboard" issue many times over (any grounds under there? My blower motor actually has rust on it). Auto AC is fine, as well as auto headlights, signal, parking, and dash lights, HUD, power seat, DIC, dome light, brake/backup lights, engine starting (still instantaneously after 5 years and 135000 miles, in fact) -- you name it.

Since all the accessories failed at once, simple logic says they must have a common problem, and I'm betting on a ground. If it helps, I first noticed one day when putting the car into park that the radio woud be "pulled down" (the display would temporarily fade), and it would turn off when shifting into park. This, I discovered, was due to the factory computer setup of auto-unlocking the doors when putting the gear selector into park. I disabled that and the problem went away, but the radio still continued to be a problem when going over bumps. The display and sound would dim, then return, then dim -- and finally faded away altogether. Also, the power locks tried to actuate (when I pressed the button or set the alarm), but seemed to lack sufficient power to trip completely. DRL faded away as well.

This originally happed in the summer of 2004. Last winter, on the coldest days, the radio display would return dimly, but no radio sound. Some current was still going to the radio, obviously, because the time was still correct, and the station buttons still held the correct frequencies. Also, the lumbar adjustment began working -- but only for a minute, then dead again (after warming up?). No such joy this winter, even with equivelent temps.

I've really got the feeling that this is something fairly simple -- a ground -- but finding it without any idea of where to look would be a fool's errand. So, again, can anyone point out WHERE and and all grounds are? In addition, what do they look like? I'm assuming a bunch of wires come together to a bolt, but will this always be at some otherwise blank spot, or might some grounds be located on an actual component -- like the blower motor? Any other ideas would be appreciated as well.

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jwardl
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G100 Right side of the engine compartment, at the base of the battery

G101 Left side of the front end upper tie bar, near the headlamp

G111 (3.1L) Lower left front of the engine on the transaxle stud, near the starter

G111 (3.8L) Right side of the engine, on the ignition control module bracket

G113 Lower left front of the engine, on the transaxle stud, near the starter

G117 (3.1L) Lower left front of the engine, on the transaxle stud, above the starter

G119 Left side of the engine compartment, at the base of the left strut tower

G200 Right side of the IP cross beam, behind the fuse block

G201 Below the IP, on the right side of the steering column, on the steering column support

G205 Left side of the IP, at the base of the steering column

G251 Left side of the IP, at the base of the steering column

G301 Inside the left door sill, forward of the left front seat

G302 Right door sill, forward of the right front seat

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Silver Surfer

"" wrote: > Would someone who knows be so good as to explain where all (or > as many as > you know/are willing to explain) the main electrical grounds > are on a 2000 > GP GTP? I've got a bunch of accessories that all went out at > once, and > that's what I'm betting on. BTW: Checked the fuses (even under > the hood) -- > all good. > > I have an Alldata subscription, but am no good at reading > electrical > diagrams. > > If it helps, the accessories not working are: daytime running > lights, power > locks (though the relay under the dash clicks), radio (every > aspect of it), > lumbar adjustment, rear window defogger, and seat heater. > > Everything else works fine, though I've had the infamous > "rainwater onder > the passenger floorboard" issue many times over (any grounds > under there? My > blower motor actually has rust on it). Auto AC is fine, as > well as auto > headlights, signal, parking, and dash lights, HUD, power seat, > DIC, dome > light, brake/backup lights, engine starting (still > instantaneously after 5 > years and 135000 miles, in fact) -- you name it. > > Since all the accessories failed at once, simple logic says > they must have a > common problem, and I'm betting on a ground. If it helps, I > first noticed > one day when putting the car into park that the radio woud be > "pulled down" > (the display would temporarily fade), and it would turn off > when shifting > into park. This, I discovered, was due to the factory computer > setup of > auto-unlocking the doors when putting the gear selector into > park. I > disabled that and the problem went away, but the radio still > continued to be > a problem when going over bumps. The display and sound would > dim, then > return, then dim -- and finally faded away altogether. Also, > the power locks > tried to actuate (when I pressed the button or set the alarm), > but seemed to > lack sufficient power to trip completely. DRL faded away as > well. > > This originally happed in the summer of 2004. Last winter, on > the coldest > days, the radio display would return dimly, but no radio > sound. Some current > was still going to the radio, obviously, because the time was > still correct, > and the station buttons still held the correct frequencies. > Also, the lumbar > adjustment began working -- but only for a minute, then dead > again (after > warming up?). No such joy this winter, even with equivelent > temps. > > I've really got the feeling that this is something fairly > simple -- a > ground -- but finding it without any idea of where to look > would be a fool's > errand. So, again, can anyone point out WHERE and and all > grounds are? In > addition, what do they look like? I'm assuming a bunch of > wires come > together to a bolt, but will this always be at some otherwise > blank spot, or > might some grounds be located on an actual component -- like > the blower > motor? Any other ideas would be appreciated as well.

ok, so your heater core sounds like its leaking onto the floorboard there is a resistor inside the blower motor box under right side dash if it has shorted that could be alot of the problem

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GPGTX

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