I doubt seriously if GM is here listening, other wise they wouldnt have built an ugly GTO based on an Australian car. They would have known it wouldnt sell if they had been here.
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19 years ago
I doubt seriously if GM is here listening, other wise they wouldnt have built an ugly GTO based on an Australian car. They would have known it wouldnt sell if they had been here.
I feel sure you're totally wrong. GM is the 4 largest company on earth (I may be off by one, I don't recall). They have many, many, many people working for them. It would only take a few people, 3 or 4, to monitor online chat groups to glean useful information.
One of the problems with making a product is you become delusional about it, and surround yourself with people on your payroll. They have no real diversity at that point. They can really use honest feedback.
Now I know that several people will reply and say GM is stupid, and they're all total idiots, and don't listen, and blah blah blah. But remember - 4th largest company on earth. Many thousands of employees, several of whom aren't idiots. They are bureaucratic, and that's different from being stupid.
If it costs nothing and makes a profit than it might be done. If it costs money and promises a profit there is a slight chance of it being done. But if it isn't their idea it won't get done no matter how much profit.
Lil Rascal said he doubted if GM was "listening"...not doubted that GM was "monitoring". A BIG...HUGE difference!
IF they had been "listening" then Lil Rascal is right! GM wouldn't have launched the GTO in the form that they did. There were plenty of posts from plenty of people here in this NG (and other places) that accurately foretold the inevitable fate of the new GTO! Did GM monitor this NG (and the other places)? Probably did! Did they "listen" to what people posted? Well we know the answer to that...NOT! Am I surprised? Not at all...speaking as a former customer. Have I tried to provide helpful insight (letters to Bob Lutz for example)? Yes! Did he return any of them? No..not even a "thanks for writing" form letter). Any company that depends on customers for survival cannot act that way! One would think that elementary fact would be intuitively obvious. Guess not!
Rememeber, Lutz said in an interview that its GM's job to TELL consumers what they want!
LOL!
Yep, I want bland boring corporate "badge engineered" cars with the same engine, styling, interior, and ride but a different brand name ....
Yes, I remember. He has things backwards! He wasn't like that when he was at Chrysler. What the heck happened to him?
Since that was a Bob Lutz Pet Project ... nothing could stop it :(.
The magic Sir Lutz was supposed to bring to GM has not happened.
John
When one becomes out of touch with the customer...bad things happen. His own words over the past few years speak volumes to that topic.
Oh come on Pauilie, you could of been mo help than that. You could of said put the pulley up to where it mounts and run the bolt in to 150lbs torque & reinstall the serpentine belt, closse the hood.
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