Saab Convertible values

I'm interested in a Saab aero petrol convertible 2005/6 and have been looking at a few - thanks to the electric interweb

They seem to be around £13k at saab main dealers - when doing a check on the dvla site I see many of them had their car tax end in august/september LAST year -

3 questions - what are the problems to look for with a car thats been lying around almost a year, why don'y they get rid of these cars and why won't they accept an offer of £10.5K which is well over the trade price ? (especially as the concern over Saabs future, saab residuals and parallels with poor old Rover)

One particular case was a car for sale at 11,699 - wouldn't accept an offer of 10,699 (plus full service + £299 polish /protection job for free) - said they wouldn't reduce the price at all!

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thomas
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"thomas" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Makes sense. Cars in stock in the motor trade don't need to be taxed or SORNed - and a lot of convertibles get chopped in at the end of summer, then sit around until prices firm in the spring.

No, they don't.

Not even close.

"Free" is about all the "paint protection" scam is worth.

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Adrian

Saab converibles are only fit for summer use?

I am - looked for a bargain - trade values are well down New 9-3 convertibles s are being sold officially at almost a third off and this will not have repercssions in the used market?

so big company selling off a small loss making little company to a few blokes with a shed is different - sorry Spyker I mean a posh shed in your case :)

My protected honda after 3 years is great - heavy rain and its so clean afterwards so its worth it - garages make around 50% gross profit so ask for it free is fine if they don't want to be seen to "discount"

But thanks for your advice anyway ;-)

PS can we keep the nastiness to your usual NG?

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thomas

thomas said the following on 26/02/2010 08:07:

You said (sorry not quotted) 2005/06 models. They have done their 3 years leasing either from the dealer or from SAAB direct and they are back on the trade. Maybe they are all happy to sit and wait for the spring.

Well, you have answered your own question. The price of the car is what the market will pay or what the dealer is willing to accept, usually a mix of the two values.

When I wanted my current car I looked for 3 months, was willing to travel anywhere and decided I could not get one at the price I wanted to pay. If you wait a while you will figure out what is the price of the cars.

Audi A4, BMW3 for you then?

That is not a SAAB dealer you are quoting is it? They never sell an "approved" car without full service (and a good 12 month warranty). And if you are buying from a non-SAAB dealer you might as well choose to do your own service so you know what is in the engine.

Audi A4, BMW3 for you then?

Cheers Charles

2x900, 1x9000 and now 1x9-5.
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Charles C

Pretty simple... it's a business decision. Dealers hold loans on any cars on their lots, or effectively do when they take a car on a trade since the money they had in the new car is not paid off until the trade is sold (again "effectively). They decide when the amount they have into the car warrants selling it off at a steep discount to avoid further interest cost or depreciation. If they have enough money in their pockets, they will hold to their price. If they need money to pay the interest due on other cars or other bills, they will sell off inventory cheap.

Investment, return, buy low, sell high... same old story with cars. While one dealer might have deep pockets, the next one might have bills coming due, so shop around. If you can't find the deal you want, you either have to pay what they dealers around you are asking, or move to another car.

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Cheers Charles 2x900, 1x9000 and now 1x9-5.

Ok I may be a bit of a **** but BMWs? ;-)

The image issue is one of the main reasons in looking at a saab rather than a bmw and reliability seems to be an issue with Audi at the mo' - I think VAG have had their Mercedes moment and been cutting costs and quality

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thomas

If you do a search on saab you'll see the red aero convertible for sale at a main dealer for 11,699

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thomas

thomas said the following on 28/02/2010 14:06:

Yup, Brindley SAAB?

Having a glance there, are a few more more 2006 cars (not Aero) at 11990 and 11995 you are basically getting a relatively low mileage car (spot on for being 3 years on the road) for what is a lower price than most other dealers.

You need to establish what is the correct price for the car and aim for that. Go along ask for a test drive of the actual car, do not just negotiate price. Be seen that you are willing to travel to different dealers to find the car/price that is the one for you.

When I bought my last two, I managed to get both at what (I thought) was the correct price, but took a long time of looking and waiting and being prepared to travel at short notice quite far to look at a car.

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Under GM the policy for selling SAABs (I don't think it applied to soft tops) was ....

For a second hand car it had to be sold by the dealer (or be moved from central stock ?) within 90 days. Eventually I worked out the pricing formula the dealers used (at the time I was looking for a nearly new 9-5 aero estate). The cars would come down to the minimum price (e.g. 17995 for 6 month old car like above) and disappear in less than a week (sold or passed to the trade or gone to auction). Cars I watched had eventually been advertised for 17995 but various dealers had refused to sell to me 3-4 months earlier the same car for £17,995.

[Eventually I bought a two month old pre-reg booted car and learned to live without the estate bit ;-) ]

Pre-reg could be kept as long as necessary.

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Use parkers guide and similar to work out what is the correct price a franchised dealer should be selling at. You may or may not get below that price (and if you do, consider e.g. how good is the service you just got). No part-exchange will allow for a lower price of the car you buy, if you are taking finance if you take the dealer's finance they make their commission etc. As far as service goes, the car should come with full service.

If it helps a little. Charles

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Charles C

So cash reserves / fluidity is less of an issue than profits!

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thomas

Exactly, so TS, please stop whining!

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Zweef

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