Oh yeah, there are complaints in the Ford forum too, however..VERY few of
them are vehicles less than 5 years old. I am pointing out the problem cars
that come out NEW with defects, correctable ones (like the leaking fuel
Ford is not without "problem" vehicles either. Part of this is due to them
sleeping with Kia (they have for years).
Fords problem(Ford/Lincoln Navigator and some "F" Series trucks) with cruise
control switch fires (caused by brake fluid seeping into the switch) was a
Aerostar (now THIS is a real piece of shit) ignition switch fires.
The Ford "Fuckus" (Focus) is a turd, had one as a rental car in hawaii for
30 minutes and took it back for a Honda
Ford Work trucks and "E" series vans......bulletproof
I look at the postings as a "Crosscut" of Subaru customers..many of which
dont post (or even know it exists).Some do post they like their cars (a lot)
others tell of high miles, but way too many mention problems with **NEW**
ones, less than 5 years old, less than 50,000 miles and this is simply not
acceptable by todays standards. Quality control, good design CAN be done. I
mention the fuel leak incident because it's EASY to design around that. many
other cars out there have HIGH-PRESSURE fuel injection and they dont leak in
cold weather. It's CHEAPO parts, Subaru saves a few cents on each car AT
YOUR EXPENSE. I expect this on a $5995 new KIA Rio, not a $15,000+++ car.
Look at Daewoo...they are dying/dead. Besides the ugly styling, they were
falling apart on the lot. They are CHEAP...low priced, but even that didn't
save them. No one wants to sit on the side of the road, 150 miles from a
town thinking...I am SO damn glad that I have a 10 year, 100,000 mile
warranty on this car. Even tho I am stuck out in the middle of nowhere, will
miss work, will have to rent another car i feel warm and fuzzy all over
because i know my dealer will fix it AGAIN.
The ONLY way to prevent the car companies from putting out shitty
workmanship is DONT BY IT. Stopped Daewoo cold in the U.S.A.!!
Kia cant sell much here, Hyundai is pretty much shut down here. So what do
they do?? They ship these turkeys to 3rd world countries hahaha
Thats the ticket. Sell them to the poor people. They will buy ANY running
Methinks Dr. Rasty got the ONE good unit Ford produced that year... my
sister, sister-in-law, and several other acquaintances have or have had
Explorers over the last 10 years, varying years amongst them. They have
registered NO complaints on the Internet about them. Probably cuz the
Ford dealers, where they spend SO MUCH of both their time AND money,
don't provide Internet access in the customer waiting areas. But in
defense of the Explorers, nobody I know has rolled theirs over with a
No car's perfect. Dr. Rasty doesn't even own a Subie, so I fail to
understand what axe he has to grind here, but even if every single one
of us who posts here had ALL the problems he mentions, in the grand
scheme of things, considering even that the total number of Subies sold
is minuscule compared to Toyota Camries or Ford Explorers or other
popular makes, we'd hardly prove the marque unreliable.
Of the various people I've known personally who've had Subies, the one
who just hit 150k miles on his is the lowest mileage owner. Many
have/had over 200k, mine has 360k (that's miles, not kilometres, and,
don't forget, it blew up last week and even Dr. Rasty couldn't say
anything bad about the miles it's gone!) I think you'd be hard pressed
to find many Explorer owners with that kind of mileage. I don't think I
know anyone who could stand one that long (F-series owners being the
only Ford owners I know who stick with their vehicles until some big
numbers show on the clock. Well, if their ignition switches don't burn
them up?) So even though my inputs are strictly anecdotal, I think the
rants from a non-owner are unwarranted.
I would have to agree there. My father-in-law works for Ford and
insists on purchasing these things every few years. Not only does he
take an absolutely huge hit on resale, even with A-Plan discounts, he
has had to either dump money into them after the warranty expires or
spends an eternity waiting for the warranty repair to be completed.
Funny, the majority of failures reported by Fafoofnick were some of the
ones experienced in four seperate Explorers. These include paint
problems, A/C compressor failure, CEL caused by O2 sensor failures, and
finally blown engine due to oil starvation caused by bad castings.
Yes quality certainly is job 1 at Ford.
Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
Well, the Forester XT (FXT) is our 3rd Subaru. We also owned a Legacy
and a WRX STi. My wife drove the Legacy on a mail route for 10 years
and beat the crap out of it. We traded the STi in on the FXT because
my wife just didn't like the STi. I loved the STi. It was a blast to
drive. But, truthfully, it wasn't very practical.
The Forester is comfortable, smooth riding, and quiet. My wife loves
it. The only negative thing I can say about Subaru's is that the Gas
mileage stinks! We've been getting about 22 mpg. And that is 95%
highway miles. With the current cost of premium gas that hurts. But,
then again, we didn't buy the Subaru for it's great gas mileage. We
really like Subies AWD system and they have been very reliable and
cost effective for us.
My 2000 Forester S has 85,000 + trouble free miles. My none turbo car
has plenty of power for a daily driver and yields 27-28 mpg at 70 mph
on regular gas. My town driving yields about 22 mpg. A very nice ride
for the money. I did not think the AWD would be a benefit here in FL.
but what a pleasant surprise when we get one of out frequent downpours
and there's 6 inches of water to drive through.
Thanks everyone for your input. I decided to buy the Forester L.L.Bean and
so far I am liking it very much. I do miss my Taurus SEL, though.
Thanks again. Your experiences and advice were invaluable.
But you couldn't possibly miss the ugliness of a Taurus. They are so ugly
that in Australia they just didn't sell.
Ford were selling 2002 plated models in 2004. Fortunately they are pretty
rare here so we don't have to look at them very often. The Falcon is much
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