Had a chance to try a Bimmer

Apr 13, 2013 46 Replies

Does not happen with cherry picked hw components.

Moot point in the age of priuses and (the infuriating) automatic engine off/on in stop and go traffic

did not happen to me, frankly I have more problems with the native cupertino apps than with adobe crapware

It's not significantly different on 160 where drives are faster

apparently it was waiting for some timeout collecting IDs of the live devices on the bus

That can be a termination issue or duplicated ID issue. Either way, it's not really a fault of SCSI, but the person who set up the SCSI chain.

Not sure where I referred to a fault anywhere. It's just the nature of the properly terminated SCSI chain to take some time compared to sata, etc to collect the IDs. Not an issue unless you have to reboot DOS style (constantly)

I can't say I've ever noticed any such issues on the various Macs I've used over the years, and I've been using Apple computers since well before there was a Mac. My own current Mac has a SCSI scanner and a SCSI CD-RW drive without any problems at all - I can, although you're not really supposed to, even switch them on and off after the computer has already booted up and they work fine.

There could potentially (although unlikely) be an issue with a SCSI hard drive not registering until it's woken up and spun up, but again, that's a fault of the drive being slow, not SCSI itself.

More likely it's simply yet another issue with disgusting Microsoft Windoze.

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(in yoda voice) mac pro you have I take it, hmm

SAS or something more ancient?

I think you can opt in to a SAS adapter that went through the redmond driver verification lab. I'd be surprised if the adapter will go through the lab unscathed. My experience with scsi was mostly on linux (and some on dos in old, slower days). And ended ariound 16gb ultra160 fujitsu of some kind i think.

I wonder if bmw uses sata junk or they opted for a sas in case they have hdd infotainment option. it could bootup while the engine warms up to the operating temperature :^)

Alternatively teutons could pipe the infotainment through the CAN bus: (female voice with a moderate german accent) "sorry, ABS was temporarily deactivated while you are listening to those mp3s :-D" (she snickers at the end and you participate in the offset collision with a pole shortly after)

That's teach 'em snotty porcupines. The entrance to the [s]nob hill ain't free ya know

A 15 year old PowerMac minitower with a 266MHz G3 chip, a 15 year old Epson inkjet printer, and a dial-up Internet connection. :-)

The CD-RW drive itself may well be some other connection system (I've never bothered to look), but it's inside an external SCSI box, daisy chained to the scanner and then the computer. The SCSI devices are all working fine.

The more recently added PCI USB card, on the other hand, is quite flakey. :-( It randomly loses the connection to the USB keyring drives (which is all I use it for) under both Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X.

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blame the drivers: they never went through microsoft driver verification lab

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