I changed the ignition switch in my 96 cavalier and sometimes when you go
to start it it wont start, the theft system light will come on.or when its
running it will shut off and you have to give it a while then it will
start. but you cant hear the fuel pump kick on when you try to start it, i
was wandering if there was a relay switch that you would have to push.
There are four different components to the passlock lock cylinder, Actuator
assy, lock cylinder,preload spring, and switch assembly. What part did you
replace? New or from a junk yard? The four components probably aren't
interlocking correctly or were not installed correctly. Why was it replaced
to start with? Worn Key?
I changed the whole swithch assembaly, i had another cavalier that i got
the switch out of, the reason i changed it was because it was wore out,
the switch wouldnt turn over. but when i changed them i had to cut the
original wires and splice the others into it, because they didnt have plug
ins. i was wondering just because if it was a diffrent year car that i
got it out of the computer wouldnt reconize it, it was only off maybe a
year. i appreciate the help. thanks
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This makes no sense. ALL GM ignition switches have plugs that
connect them to the electrical harness, they may snake down to
the under dash area but they are there.
The different year doner car could very well be missing some
anti-theft components if it was older than your car.
It also possible that you're just suffering a coincidental
failure of the passlock sensor at the ignition switch, or that
you mangled the passlock sensor when you made the repair.
you said there was a chance that there could be a failure of the passlock
sensor, is there a way to check or change the sensor, or do i have to
change the whole switch, the doner car was either the same or one year
newer.could you tell me where to look for the passlock sensor. i
appreciate it. thanks
I suggest you try to find a service manual so you can read and understand
how the passlock system works. It sounds like you have damaged it to the
point you may have to get all four components to restore it. Parts of it go
in both sides of the column and cutting/splicing wires can really create
problems. It is possible if the original lock wouldn't turn a little lock
eeze would have fixed it as the tumblers were probably just stiff...
I don't know about 96 Cavalier, but here's a quick, easy, free thing I
learned for my '99 Suburban (it would start - then shut-off) that worked.
After spending 4 days of my vacation getting my car repaired, including all
of the electronics in the steering wheel. It turned out to be the security
system detecting that my car key was 'fake' thus someone must be stealing
the car. Since it has to do with anti-theft, Chilton's and other manuals
didn't even discuss it. However
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did provide some useful
info... and along with the following tip from the parts store guy the
Suburban finally would start every time:
Here's what I did that worked:
Set the ignition key switch to accessory - the electronics are ON in the
car, then remove the negative terminal from the car battery for a few
minutes. Then, turn the to OFF, hook up the battery and you're done! As it
was explained to me, this causes the car to erase its memory, so it has to
re-learn the car key. This worked when all the steering wheel repairs and
everything else didn't.
By the way, the anti-theft stuff was confused because I plugged a GPS
receiver into the cigarette lighter, and the GPS had a battery in it. This
slightly changed the voltage sensed by the anti-theft device - causing it to
think my car key was a 'fake'... Removing the GPS didn't help at that
point.
Good luck,
Tom
I changed the ignition switch in my 96 cavalier and sometimes when you go
to start it it wont start, the theft system light will come on.or when its
running it will shut off and you have to give it a while then it will
start. but you cant hear the fuel pump kick on when you try to start it, i
was wandering if there was a relay switch that you would have to push.
I also have a 1996 Cavalier, the tumblers froze up in the ignition so
it would not turn at all. We purchased a used ignition and a friend
installed it into the car. Now the car will start but will not stay
running. We tried the thing with turning the ignition on and unhooking
the battery cables. It did not work. Is there anything thing else short
of taking it and (being taken by) the dealer? The car is in excellent
condition and runs excellent, it is worth the bother. Please help if
you can. Thank you.
You have Passlock 1. Attempt to start the vehicle. At
this point, if the vehicle starts, and
the security light has not illuminated,
a relearn is not necessary, and you?re
done. If the vehicle starts and stalls,
leave the key in the ?Run? position
and wait for the ?Security? light to
turn off. This will take approximately
10 minutes. At any time during this
relearn, the light may flash or be on
steady. If the ignition switch is
turned off at any time during this
relearn cycle that the security light is
illuminated, the entire cycle must be
restarted from the beginning.
For most cars, one cycle will be
sufficient for the relearn. If the
vehicle will not start after the first
cycle, then continue the process
from step #3 to the end.
Most trucks will require that you
continue from step #3 to the end.
3. When the light turns off, turn
the ignition switch to the ?Off?
position for approximately ten
seconds.
4. Next, repeat step 3 two
more times for a total of three cycles.
After the third time, the new code will
be relearned on the next start attempt
when the ignition switch is rotated
from the ?Off? position.
5. From the ?Off? position, start
the vehicle, observing the security
light. If the vehicle starts and runs
normally, and the security light is off,
the relearn is complete. If the vehicle
does not start, check for trouble
codes before proceeding further.
After this, if you continue to have intermittent problems, you may want to
consider Passlock Disablement.
There is no need to add a remote starter for this to work.
PASSLOCK I or II DISABLEMENT
The following is a procedure to disable Passlock I or II Systems for vehicles
in which remote start/stop system installations are required. This procedure
is required because a remote start system will not function with the current
Theft Deterrent System (Passlock) which is included on many 1996 and up GM
vehicles.
Please note that this modification is intended to be used only in conjunction
with the installation of a remote start/stop system and does not provide a
procedure to install a remote start/stop system.
CAUSE
If an attempt is made to start a vehicle by a means other than a key rotation
in the ignition switch, the Body Control Module (BCM) will interpret this
start as a vehicle theft and disable the fuel injectors.
CORRECTION
A minor wiring modification may be made to allow the vehicle to be started
remotely. This modification includes adding a switch to allow the customer to
select ?ON? to disable Passlock or ?OFF? for normal Passlock operation.
CAUTION: When this modification is performed and the switch is set to the ON
position, the theft deterrent feature will be disabled. When the theft
deterrent is disabled the SECURITY or THEFT telltale will light up indicating
that the theft deterrent system is NOT functioning.
PASSLOCK MODIFICATION
Refer to appropriate GM service manuals and/or SVMQP Electrical Guideline
Manual for instruction on splicing and electrical connections.
1. Select a suitable on-off switch (see note below) which will be used to
disable/
enable the Passlock System. Mount the switch in a location such that it is
accessible to the driver and will not interfere with normal vehicle operation.
NOTE: This is an extremely low current circuit (approx. 7mA), it is therefore
very important that a high quality, low energy, fast acting switch be
utilized
for this application.
2. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position.
3. Locate the Main Ignition Switch Harness in the Column. GM's Passlock
System wires exit the Ignition Switch Tumbler together and then join with the
Main Ignition Switch Harness. (See
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orhttp://64.85.6.118/diagrams/diagrams.asp and select your Make, Model andYear for wire colors and clues on the quickest way to access these wires.) 4. Locate the Yellow Passlock Data Wire which is included in a bundle ofthree tiny (20 GA) wires wrapped in friction tape.Cut this wire and splice a 0.5mm2 (20 GA) yellow wire to each end of the cutwire.
Keep wire length to a minimum. Route modification wires clear of moving parts.
Connect the yellow wires to the switch such that the contacts are OPEN when
the switch is in the ON position.
5. Turn modification switch to the OFF postion (contacts closed).
6. Start vehicle to verify normal operation. If engine ?cranks but will not
start"
recheck the switch position (contacts should be closed), wire connectors and
modification wiring.
SWITCH OPERATION
To enable remote start:
Start the engine with the ignition key (modification switch must be in the
OFF
position). Turn modification switch to the ON position (contacts open). The
SECURITY or THEFT telltale will light up indicating that the Passlock System
is inoperative.
Once the SECURITY or THEFT telltale has been on for at least 5 seconds the
vehicle can be turned off and then remotely started.
To disable remote start:
The Passlock System can be reactivated by turning the modification switch OFF
(contacts closed). Vehicle can either be running or off when this is done.
Please note that the VCM/PCM will record Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs)
related to the security system when the modification switch is in the ON
position (circuit open). This is due to the way that the VCM/PCM interprets
this condition.
NOTICE
Any condition which removes battery power from the Vehicle Control
Module/Powertrain Control Module (VCM/PCM) (e.g. dead battery, disconnected
harness connectors, etc.) will prevent the vehicle from being restarted. If
the engine exhibits a ?cranks but will not start? symptom, place the
modification switch in the OFF (contacts closed) position. This will
reactivate the Passlock System and allow the vehicle to be started with the
ignition key.
Dog
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