Does any alternator* fitted in cars have an impeller ?

My NipponDenso * has no fan / impeller to pull air into * to cool

*, so this * ( esp when heated by engine block ) gets too hot ( can boil an egg ) in 33ºC air, output ( ampere & voltage ) drops too low just as described in
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last paragraph. Users cannot fit an impeller because no space exists between ( drive belt's ) pulley & * ( like in this web page's photo ). I presume such *'s designers want to keep * small, to fit * into engine compartment, but leaving out an impeller ( & let * overheat , as per this web page ) looks ridiculous. My Hitachi lawn mower's motor has an impeller : motor never gets hot if impeller is fitted. Our 3 Black & Decker trimmers' motors have no impeller, all 3 motors' coils melted in 33ºC air & had to be recoiled.
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TE Chea
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Have you looked inside the unit yet? Look near the rear, just in front of the steel endcap, through the cast holes in the rear case (with a flashlight). There should be a steel fan attached to the rear end of the rotor.

ND makes probably the most reliable alternators I have ever seen in production. Perhaps if they were speced more poorly they would need an external fan. I don't know how that would would be superior to the current design, unless they employed Delphi CS series front bearings. A front fan doesn't even keep those POS (plural) from failing.

Toyota MDT in MO

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Comboverfish

Comboverfish wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

I just happen to still have my old ND alternator from my '91 Integra.

I study this unit, and lo and behold there is an impeller at BOTH ENDS: both the diode end and the pulley end. One is evidently a "pusher" and one a "puller".

Both impellers are within the casing and are not readily visible without close observation, but are unmistakeably present.

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Tegger

ALL of the alternators I have ever worked on have had some sort of fan (various Delcos, Prestolites, Bosches and Motorolas)

nate

Reply to
Nate Nagel

Correct- every ND alternator I've ever seen looks like a small clone of the original Chrysler alternator- finned case with a fan on each end of the shaft (two fans) on the INSIDE of the finned case. No big external fan required.

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Steve

| Have you looked inside the unit yet? No, I could not pull its rear cover ( part #15 in w-page of url attached, has ND embossed on it ) off, after removing 3 nuts.

| There should be a steel fan attached to the rear end of the rotor. No fan visible in diagram of this w-page, url attached :

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| ND makes probably the most reliable alternators I have ever seen in | production. Possible ; how this * can survive such heat amazes me.

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TE Chea

I had to look twice, with a high power flashlight, inside the back of my alternator to find the cooling fins, but they are present in my Vulcan V6 Ford engine alternator. At first it didn't look like there were any, so you have to look closely. Maybe reading glasses will help. Mine are right at the coil windings.

Lg

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Lawrence Glickman

"TE Chea" wrote in news:467a3295 snipped-for-privacy@news.tm.net.my:

Wiggle it some more. 3 nuts is all that holds it on.

Go look at your own alternator. Pictures are not always worth a thousand words. Sometimes they're worth less than zero words.

ND alternators have, not one, but TWO fans.

And on further investigation, it is clear I was wrong in my original guess that one fan was a puller and one a pusher. BOTH fans are pullers. Both fans pull air in from their respective ends, then exhaust it radially through the slots in the perimeter of the alternator casing. It appears that this is the sole purpose of those slots: Air exhaustion and alternator cooling.

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Tegger

That might be the original reason for their existence, but I like to use them as stroboscopic diffusers for my alternator's neon lighting. What, am I alone here?

Toyota MDT in MO

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Comboverfish

Comboverfish wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

You are utterly, tragically alone.

Stroboscopic lighting in an alternator indeed.

Why can't you be like decent, tasteful people and stick to stroboscopic under-car neon lighting?

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Tegger

I always thought the slots were to let the magic smoke out when the alternator fails.

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Steve Austin

innews: snipped-for-privacy@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

Hee hee! It's just not in my nature to be decent or tasteful.

Toyota MDT in MO

Reply to
Comboverfish

You are credible. Mysterios are not, those few in this thread are salesmen of japan cars with this *, want to bluff & hide this *'s inadequacy. Such a hot * suits only cold climate 25ºC, this * is bad, in >33ºC - disastrous. I'll ignore mysterios, they can bluff all they want.

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TE Chea

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Dan

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