GM to build engines in Mexico

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and the comments, Government Motors - Way to go! 1/21/2011 11:12:00 AM That will create how many new jobs in the US? Tomorrow, Obama wil say that created 500K more jobs here. Way to go guys! Strike another blow for the Socialists party! GM and engines built in Mexico 1/21/2011 11:18:00 AM And where are the stimuls dollars that could have been used to keep these jobs and engines in the USA?? GM To Build Engines In Mexico 1/21/2011 11:26:00 AM Perhaps Mexico can bail GM out next time they get in trouble. Invest in Mexico's Jobs 1/21/2011 11:35:00 AM WHO bailed GM out? Who do they still owe billions of dollars to? American Taxpayers or Mexican Taxpayers. Hey, Obama. Why didn't you recommend China for this? This is how they thank us? 1/21/2011 11:42:00 AM The American taxpayers bail them out and they reward us by creating new jobs in Mexico? Mexico 1/21/2011 11:46:00 AM This is creating jobs in the US? enough is enough!!! 1/21/2011 12:02:00 PM They took our tax dollars, without asking us, and gave it to GM to keep them from going broke and to save and create jobs in the US. Isn't that what they said? And now they take our money and build a plant to build engines and create 500 jobs in Mexico. Does anyone besides me have a problem with this? GM, is a U.S. co? 1/21/2011 1:23:00 PM Way to go, so they stel $60 BILLION from us, and build modern factorys in Mexico! Why didn't Mexico give them $60 Billion? We have to be the dumbest country going. I wouldn't buy a GM product ever, , if it was given to me, I'd sell it. Besides being junk, when I had company GM vehicles, they take the people's money and expand in Mexico. When experts run things, all us dummies just don't understand. GM Expansion in Mexico 1/21/2011 1:50:00 PM Is this were the bailout of Gm is going- to Mexico? What happened to US expansion? Obamath 1/21/2011 1:54:00 PM We bail out an industrial failure, they move jobs to Mexico, and then send the end product back to sell the the unemployed auto workers. Out of 1.86 million cars exported, 1.27 million returned to compete with US manufactured vehicles. And BHO says this is good for our economy???

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bob urz wrote in news:ihdflt$p21$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

Where do you get this old stuff?

GM's been building engines in Mexico for years. Specifically in Silao and Ramos Arizpe.

Anybody who knows how to use Google can find this out.

In the Summer time of 1992, (maybe it was in 1993, I don't remember exactly, I brought a Monterey newspaper back with me, I can look up the date on that newspaper) when I went on vacation, I visited Mexico for five days.Near Saltillo,Mexico I drove right by a GM factory and next door to that factory was a Dodge factory. cuhulin

Mexico has been very industrially active for decades. Dont even suggest that the people there are not capable of making excellent machines.. They are! There is no difference basically between American laborers, South American laborers, European laborers.

They can make cars, pharmaceuticals, etc every bit as well as an American, given that the company itself is competent, and that they train they workers and work toward a quality standard.

"hls" wrote There is no difference basically between American laborers, South

Yes there is. It is called wages. If they demanded the same pay as here there would be zero point in building in Mexico.

Econo-cars

"econo_cars" wrote in message news:201101231553.UTC.ihhiu7$pn5$ snipped-for-privacy@tioat.net...

That is not a difference in the laborers. That is a difference wages, and having low wages does not cause a poor product, nor does having high wages guarantee a good one (ref. GM).

I move some items manufactured in Mexico. Quality is excellent and the price is somewhat lower than would be available here. Now, if I wanted to put in a plant here, and pay the millions extra that governmental regulations would cost, and if I wanted to tolerate American labor costs, unions, and laws, I couldnt compete with old line established companies.

I could,however, make the same products.

I used to have a Chevrolet four cylinder inboard marine engine/boat engine.It was Hecho en Mexico/Made in Mexico.And I used to have a tv set that was Made in Mexico.I think I have some other things around here that was Made in Mexico too. cuhulin

You really don't read very closly do you...

The article was dated 1-21-2011 in a industry trade magazine. And its said 540Mill NEW investment. Nowhere did i say or did anyone say there were NEVER engines built in Mexico. This is NEW money going down there. That's the whole point.

bob

bob urz wrote in news:ihhvd5$qv2$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

Your subject line certainly implies that.

Then you need to write more accurate subject lines. Maybe something like: "GM to build MORE engines in Mexico".

They allow themselves to be abused. They are suckers.

Products made cheap in Mexico are sold here for the same price range it was sold at before being made cheaply in Mexico. Just look at the Ford Fiesta American edition. Made in Mexico and more expensive than a Honda Civic which gives more value for the dollar than the less powerful, smaller, Fiesta.

You're misinformed. The only reason why American companies produce in Mexico is so that the owners can put more profit in their pockets rather than putting it in the pockets of American workers and in the tax pot of American Taxpayers. It is all about greed, the exact same greed that is killing the American economy. Americans are paid well so they can spend well, and spending well is what keeps us all living in comfort. Soon we will all be poor like the Mexicans who work for crap.

Econo-cars

econo_cars" wrote in message news:201101242301.UTC.ihl0cs$sk$ snipped-for-privacy@tioat.net...

What you apparently don't realize is that he also, along with a very large vocal contingent of those found on forums, is almost surely a right-wing conservative fascist who cares nothing at all about anyone other than himself and blames the working class, and their advocates, for every ill.

"econo_cars" wrote in message news:201101242301.UTC.ihl0cs$sk$ snipped-for-privacy@tioat.net...

What would you have them do? Revolution? Elect a Commie regime??

No, I am not misinformed..I take products made in Mexico because that is the only way I can be competitive in the world market... If I could make those things here and be competitive, I would certainly do it.

I pay US taxes on my earnings.

Soon you may all be worse off, that is true.. The reason is that the US government has sold your future to the devil, we cannot pay our indebtness any longer, we are out of money, and the US dollar is starting its fall from first reserve currency in the world to "undesirable".

Really, I am a conservative middle of the roader.. You must be a leftist. I dont blame the "working class".. I blame the government which has been incompetent and irresponsible for decades, and at whose feet we can lay a lot of the ills of our society.

So what is it you want the government to do?

He is right you are contributing to the export of American jobs Do you want the government to stop you from doing that?

These are NOT American jobs. They are jobs, and this is international commerce. I dont owe ANYBODY a job.

"econo_cars" wrote in news:201101231553.UTC.ihhiu7$pn5$ snipped-for-privacy@tioat.net:

Are prices of goods the same in Mexico as they are in the US?

That's right and Nobody owes you a living or a sound economy either.

You are the one whining about indebtedness and the decline of the US currency. The number one reason for that is that for the last 30 years US imports have far exceeded US exports. That isn't the government's fault. That is your fault.

Essentially, yes. For some years one of the prime materials was a bit cheaper because it was being manufactured within Mexico and there was a subsidy to incentivate market growth.. That no longer exists.