How much of the seats are leather?

On my 1991 Chrysler NY Fifth Avenue, the pillow tops and back of the seats are leather, as are the rear seats. It is "Mark Cross" edition leather, whatever that means.

Depends on your definition of leather. None of it is actual top grain leather like you'd find in your old MG. The actual leather part is suede with a thin plastic layer on top that makes it look like top grain leather. But, it sure doesn't feel like it.

In most cases, all the seats are leather, but often the sides will be vinyl with the rest of the surface being plastified leather.

Check the owner's manual and see what Toyota recommends.

--scott

I found my leather conditioner also works well on vinyl. Lexol.

Greg

I use vinylex, Lexol's vinyl product on vinyl and plastic surfaces with very good results. On leather their leather products.

Thanks.

I had an '84 Chrysler Lebaron that was Mark Cross. I've been looking for that guy ever since.

My seats are light tan, so I don't expect them to be very hot. I went through that with black vinyl seats a long time ago, so top color and intererior color are big factors in what I buy.

Thanks everyone. (I did read t he owners manual but iirc, it was vague.)

Are you talking about all cars here, not just Toyotas?

I had read it, but I just read it again.

All they say is use a soft cloth dampened with a 5% solution of neutral detergent for wool. Then wipe that off with a clean damp cloth. Then dry with a soft dry cloth in a ventilated shaded area.

Nothing about which parts of the seats are leather, and nothing about preserving the leather. Is the hidden message here that the leather is plactic coated so that no preservative helps? What happens when the plastic coating is old? Surely some leather preservative could get in the cracks to what's underneather.

The LHS was a pretty nice car - too bad they tended to break and fall apart. My Sonata has leather faced seats. It never gets too hot or to cold over here so they're never too hot. I don't get much chance to use the seat warmers either but I like to freak my passengers out sometimes by turning their heater on when they ain't looking. :-)

Not all of them. On the 7-series BMW and I think the M-class BMW you can order top grain leather as an option now. Mercedes might have a similar option. But it's a lot more expensive than the plastic leather.

Use whatever the car manufacturer recommends, because it's not really vinyl and it's not really leather, it's some of each. In a weird way.

--scott

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