Re: Toyota's reputation needs some TLC

There is VERY little difference. It's mostly perception and preference based on the quality problems of the domestics one or two decades ago. People have long memories. In the 70's you could figure on something going wrong with your domestic several times a year. Now it's pretty rare.

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Ashton Crusher
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U R talking out your ass.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

We have thousands of vehicles in our fleet, almost all domestic. Just sticking with "cars" for the moment, generally when we get a new one we drive it for 150,000 miles and about 10 years and in that time it's rare to even have as much as one non-maintence repair a year. The last car I had that has now been retired was a 95 caprice. In the 13 years and 125,000 miles we had it it had to have three minor warranty repairs in the first couple years, after that I drove it for the next decade and never had to do a thing to it but routine maintenance. Our last two E350 Ford vans ran up to 250K with nothing needed outside the changes we made like bigger alternators to run equipment. V-10 automatics that were flogged for 250K miles and they ran like new when we auctioned them off and they looked like new (once they were shampooed). I see the same thing over and over with our domestic fleet vehicles. Yes, you may have had a couple problems but I can tell you that the current domestics are nothing like what they were producing in the 70's. I see a friend of mine plow big$$$$ into his imports while I'm driving one of our fleet vehicles I bought at auction - had 147,000 on it when I bought it, had 190,000 when I traded it in for case for clunkers. Paid $2500, drove it for 7 years, "sold" it for $4500. Put $1500 into it over the 7 years to make it like I wanted.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

"Mike Hunter" found these unused words:

That's a non-fact, qualifying as a Michael Mooreism.

Equal numbers could be the result of a particular day schedule, more toyotas sold than fords, or that the shop has a reputation for properly servicing the toyota!

Reply to
Sir F. A. Rien

I beg to differ...... He's talking out his fingertips.

Reply to
dick blisters

Could you infor me s to what you mean by a problem with sludge, head bolt problems and road noise?

I have a 1989 Toyota pickup that I have been driving since 1988 and it has

289,653 miles on it.

I've never had a problem with any of the things you mention. Or is this only concerning newer models. I would like to know especially about the "sludge problem" as I am thinking of shopping around for a new vehicle.

Appreciate any info you are willing to provide. You can mail my personal email address if you wish. thanx

richard

Reply to
dick blisters

FatterDumber& Happier Moe found these unused words:

Let's see ... you've READ about problems and thus decide you're not going to buy a Toyota.

BUTT !

You have had actual major problems with GM and so -=will=- buy from them?

Do you work for the company that makes 15 story elevators for 18 story buildings?

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My car history:

How about Buick Skylark - out of round crankshaft - 3 months old. GMC said it was within 'tolerance' and thus not covered. [out of pocket]

AMC {Chrysler} Wavy Lines in front windscreen, causing optical distortion. NOT covered though vehicle was 1 week old! Cal Law forced replacement.

Chevrolet Malibu - intermittant problem where application experienced loss of rear brakes, then sudden application causing skidding. "Bad driving" NOT covered. [Faulty master cylinder - paid for out of pocket.]

Ford Pinto - defective gas tank & mountings. Finally covered in the general lawsuit.

Ford Fairlaine Wagon - defective wiring harness for rear. NOT covered as car had been driven more than 5,000 miles. [out of pocket]

Three Toyotas - all minor problems and all but a sticky door lock [at 6 years of age] fully covered with loaners [none of the US crappies offered!] when overnight.

Oh yeah, the -=current=- Toyota is the LEAST noisy of all the above!

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Sir F. A. Rien

In the eighty I damn sure could count on something going wrong with my Toyota three or four times a year. Finally fixed it my getting a Ford. Trips to the shop for repairs immeadiately went to zero per year. So don't tell me how great Toyotas were in the 70's and 80's. They built some real POS just like every other manufacturer.

Ed

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C. E. White

You won't hear me tell you how great the Toyota's was. I have never been impressed by them. Several years ago my Boss bought a Camry. After hearing so much good stuff about Toyota's I was prepared to be impressed when he drove to lunch. It was as dull a car as I think I had ridden in in years and basically seemed no different in anyway then any number of chevys and fords I'd been in. I know the couple of imports I've had were not at all impressive as far as durability and had nothing else special going for them either.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

Up here, Hondas are the preferred vehicle of ricer gangs.

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Sharx35

What part of "here" is "up here"?

Reply to
dick blisters

As in WINTERpeg!

Reply to
Sharx35

Keerect! But the wife and I go south for the winter from Nov to April. We've become real cowards in our old age (me 67, her 47). Can't stand freezing our buns off anymore. Just talked to my brother in Wpg and he said it was currently -24.

Reply to
dick blisters

Yeah they were almost at shitty as the domestics.

As usual Ed, you are inhaling your own ass vapors.

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Reply to
M. Balmer

Oh one funny turd blossom

Reply to
M. Balmer

Yes let's have all domestics assembled by inbred southern non union white trash. take a look at the recall issues with non unionized plants in this country and you'll see a real eye opener. Maybe you like working for $5.50 an hour. bet you have your own personalized parking space at Wart Mart too!

Reply to
M. Balmer

So you don't actually have this list of recall issues due to non-union plants that is so eye opening? What a surprise!

Troll.

Plonk.

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E. Meyer

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