Run Your Vehicles On Water (HHO)

Using essentially a microwave oven to create the steam would solve some of the annoying problems with steam engines in cars.

Most ethanol production, hydrogen, etc really are batteries. It's not practical to have a nuclear reactor in a car, but it could be practical to have a nuclear reactor power hydrogen production and hydrogen to run the car.

But since environmentalists oppose nukes, wind, and probably will oppose solar if it ever become viable enough to pave a state with solar cells the hydrogen would be produced using oil, coal, and natural gas making the whole thing a pointless excerise. Exactly why the government subsidizes for ethanol don't make any sense. We get higher food and fuel prices as a result.

A few years ago, Popular Mechanics magazine ran an article about a new type of atomic powered airplane that is suppose to be safe.Scuderi Group

is working on something they call a Split Cycle engine. cuhulin

Whichever search engines you like, Atomic Airplane - Popular Mechanics

Powered by halfnium 178. cuhulin

We should be so lucky.

TO: rec.autos.tech

your [you're] all brain dead You never graduated from High School. You are uneducated and stupid. You are a waste of human life. you are no mechanic.... You are UNEDUCATED MORONS

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Just a rough guesstimate; looks like you have somewhere near $50K in judgements against you.

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WOW! This thing must be Top Notch!

Sept. 2005

I want ABSOLUTE proof in the form of repeatable LAB testing proving that your device works. NOT "My buddy Bob got a 50% increase" or the smae crap I see on ALL the sites that have the typical "This man got a 20% increase" If this thing works so great ANY lab should be able to install it on a test engine and get increased mileage, which should be able to be duplicated. BUT nobody has this proof in any form. Why is that?

KISS OFF.

Why don't YOU show REPEATABLE LAB STUDIES? And "hey this dude got a 20% increase" IS NOT PROOF. How about you send it to a REAL lab and have them test it. Then post the results.

OR SHUT UP.

Looked at the REAL power use by this spammers set-up. 22-25 amp continuous draw!

76th and Villard streets in Milwaukee,,,, What, no guard dogs running around in those chain link fences? cuhulin

Maybe there isn't, maybe there is...

I agree with you, but in another forum a retired Ford engineer told me to be more open minded about crazy ideas, so I'm willing to take a chance on this product, provided someone is willing cover the costs.

System efficiency ain't so great, though. Our office microwave has a

1KW nameplate rating.... but actual input power measured with a Weston moving vane meter is a nudge over 1800 watts.

It takes two minutes ten seconds to boil 125 ml of water with 16'C ambient temperature. Figure that takes 2 kilocalories (plus the heat to warm up my Data General coffee mug). 14.3 cal/sec. assuming no heat loss and ignoring the mug.

That's only 60 watts actually going into the water... it's 4.2 kcal/sec to the watt.

Where's the OTHER 1200 watts going to?

--scott

I dont want to seem like I am bragging, (Fort Bragg is Bragging every day) but I own two microwave ovens.One of them is an old Sharp microwave oven that dates back to around 1982, the turn table thingy in it quit working years ago.The other one is a Sharp microwave oven I bought at a Wal Mart store about four years ago.It has the microwave and two infrared heating elements in it.Both ovens will boil water. I want a MIDI Aircar. cuhulin

I think you're off by a factor of ten:

((125 *( (100 - 16) + 80) ) * 4.184) / 130 = 659.8

1 calorie = 4.18400 joules latent heat of water = 80 cal/g

Whoops! Mixed up latent heat of fusion (80 cal/g) with latent heat of vaporization (540 cal/g). But the water isn't all boiled away in the two minutes and 10s, just heated from 16C to 100C.

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So it looks like 338W are being absorbed by the water, the rest is going into heating the cup and the inefficiency of the oven.

But radio transmitters take energy. ANY form of hydrolysis takes at least as much energy input as the energy content of the hydrogen you get.