Temperature Gauge Issues

I drive a Plymouth Sundance 2.5. I'm having several issues with my temperature gauge. My car doesn't seem to actually overheat, but the temperature gauge reads on the high side sometimes. This seems to only happen in hotter weather when cruising the freeway at higher speeds (and also when running the A/C as well). Basically, when I'm just driving normally around town and stuff on smaller highways, my temp gauge usually stays at about 180-185 degrees (I have a 180 degree thermostat) when going down the road and fan comes on at 211 degrees when stopped.

Now when I drive at higher speeds on the highway (like 80 MPH or so) for a while, my temperature gauge will rise to about 200 degrees (1/2 on gauge) and peak at about 210 degrees (a little over halfway) when cruising. This is a little more obvious with the A/C running. And when I stop at red lights or sit in a parking lot (mainly after extended highway cruises), the engine heats up to what appears to be 225 degrees (almost the 3/4 mark) and the fan comes on and cools it back down to

195. When driving around town for a long time (w/o interstate driving), my temperature gauge will usually stay at around 190 degrees when driving down the road.

The temperature gauge doesn't do any fast swings, though.

My thermostat is most certainly opening properly. When the temperature rises over 210 degrees, the upper radiator hose feels hot, so the thermostat is open. Usually, when the temperature gauge gets to 180 degrees (1/4 mark) when I first start driving, the upper radiator hose becomes hot. So, the thermostat opens on time. All of the air is bled out of the system (I drilled a small hole on top of thermostat to self-bleed the air).

Late last year, I had the head gasket changed, head resurfaced, and a valve job done. Early this year, I replaced the radiator, hoses, and radiator cap. I changed the thermostat last week. I replaced the alternator belt (which drives water pump) several days ago. My coolant was changed earlier in the year when radiator was installed.

Is this behavior normal? Could the temperature gauge be rising after extended periods of time primarily because there's extra load on the engine and the weather is hot (I live in the south)?

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Pentastar
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Shep

I drive a Plymouth Sundance 2.5. I'm having several issues with my temperature gauge. My car doesn't seem to actually overheat, but the temperature gauge reads on the high side sometimes. This seems to only happen in hotter weather when cruising the freeway at higher speeds (and also when running the A/C as well). Basically, when I'm just driving normally around town and stuff on smaller highways, my temp gauge usually stays at about 180-185 degrees (I have a 180 degree thermostat) when going down the road and fan comes on at 211 degrees when stopped.

Now when I drive at higher speeds on the highway (like 80 MPH or so) for a while, my temperature gauge will rise to about 200 degrees (1/2 on gauge) and peak at about 210 degrees (a little over halfway) when cruising. This is a little more obvious with the A/C running. And when I stop at red lights or sit in a parking lot (mainly after extended highway cruises), the engine heats up to what appears to be 225 degrees (almost the 3/4 mark) and the fan comes on and cools it back down to

195. When driving around town for a long time (w/o interstate driving), my temperature gauge will usually stay at around 190 degrees when driving down the road.

The temperature gauge doesn't do any fast swings, though.

My thermostat is most certainly opening properly. When the temperature rises over 210 degrees, the upper radiator hose feels hot, so the thermostat is open. Usually, when the temperature gauge gets to 180 degrees (1/4 mark) when I first start driving, the upper radiator hose becomes hot. So, the thermostat opens on time. All of the air is bled out of the system (I drilled a small hole on top of thermostat to self-bleed the air).

Late last year, I had the head gasket changed, head resurfaced, and a valve job done. Early this year, I replaced the radiator, hoses, and radiator cap. I changed the thermostat last week. I replaced the alternator belt (which drives water pump) several days ago. My coolant was changed earlier in the year when radiator was installed.

Is this behavior normal? Could the temperature gauge be rising after extended periods of time primarily because there's extra load on the engine and the weather is hot (I live in the south)?

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Pentastar

Over the last six months, I replaced pretty much every cooling system component. I will check the fins on the A/C condenser, though. I did clean the crap off of the fins about 6 months ago with a garden hose, but I'm not sure how many flat spots there were on there.

And is there anything that could make the engine generate more waste heat than normal? I have Cold Air Intake scoops on my car.

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Pentastar

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Frank Knight

Keep in mind that modern engines are supposed to run hotter than older ones. When I was a kid, there were two thermostats, a 160 for people who used alcohol for antifreeze, and 180 for those who used glycol.

A hotter engine is more efficient (thermodynamic efficiency, not volumetric efficiency), so mfgs raised temerature through the years as improved oils and metals were available. A modern engine should run at least 190- 210 is not unreasonable.

Cold air intake scoops are primarily to affect volumetric efficiency- cooling the incoming air charge- rather than engine cooling. In fact, a cooler intake charge actually generates more engine heat at a given throttle opening than a warmer charge, 'cause the charge density is higher and more fuel and air are being burned each revolution. It would be hard to see the difference in the temp gauge, however.

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Don Stauffer

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