Tire Pressure Monitor (2025 Update)

I'd have to see that to believe it.

Ah yes, it is cheaper and the pressure monitering system will be very hard to remove cheaply from any car that is built with it in the system. I assume that you will not buy a car after the required pressure sensors are in the

Wow, you got that down pat, I've never seen that orange area or the red light, what happens next? You are still suggesting these people will use a tire gage over reacting to a warning light?

Now come on, is it the thumpty thump that tells you a tire is flat? Or, big question here, can you see that the rim is very close to the ground or the tire has a much larger bulge in the side, (runflat not included), than do the others on the vehicle? Actually you can see it, you can hear it, you can feel it, and last but not least, you can smell them when they go flat, all of this is under certain conditions of course.

Did you ever hear about offsets for tweaking the accuracy of the interface between a electronic component and its sensor? My assumption is that if a system goes out with no warning that it is the same as any other aspect of life, you deal with it. Why do you think they go out without warning, I don't remember that being the issue? Nothing was said about that, only when his tires were rotated and the revenue enhancement guru kicked in.

You should use it more, but then close is good enough as you seem to think. All of our analog gages were calibrated on a regular basis and they do/did fail, but then I dealt with precision gages and if you do it would surprise me. My direct reference was to the Corvette as it is cross posted, I would expect you to realize that. In reality the Cadillac owner was talking about them wanting an added cost figure for resetting his sensors. My first reply was how to do it yourself. You are the one that is fixated on the usefulness/value of the pressure monitoring system.

Can be and if that's the way you might choose to live, that is your choice.

This system is already in use. I first saw it on the 97 Grand Prix. It was the same on my 2000 Grand Prix and is in place on my 2005 Grand Prix. Just a simple system that uses the abs wheel sensor to detect a difference in the rotational speed of the wheel compared to the others. I suppose if all tires were low to the same degree it wouldn't detect it. Had it warn of a low tire (nail) once so I guess it works.

Dave WI

My mom's 2000 Regal has that low tire light system. The one that utilizes the ABS and TC system. Not sure if my new car, a 2006 Grand Prix, will have the actual pressure displayed or just a low tire warning...

You really need to read a little better John, it wasn't a statement, it was a question. Is that the problem, someone, heaven forbid, questioned you supreme knowledge?

The obvious is that change seems to come hard for you as with those other drivers?

Allot of drivers and most drivers seem to be rather poor at driving in the manner you think they should. Thankfully I drive where most driver do a pretty fair job of avoiding problems. For those other drivers I have the unique ability to forsee problems that could be an incident and avoid them. Sort of like low tires and poor visability are indicators that I shouldn't be there when the accident happens.

Obvious like tire pressure monitoring systems do work?

I see you didn't care to answer how accurate the tire pressure monitoring systems can be, must be out of your knowledge base.

Not really, it is just a somewhat funny collections of words I keep in my compartment, but never use them for what they were intended. Get the point? You assume allot. Try to deal in facts, it's enlightening.

One thing I do try to avoid is not cross posting, this one got out of hand and will stop here for me.

It appears the thread has been cross posted.

Well the Caddy XLR and the Vette are very close to each other once you get under the skin.

Ian

you need a special wieless tool to wake up your tire sensor, when you want to retate your tire position. that is a big problem for existing TPMS. because even tire maintain shop, they don't has this tool. it is very expensive, especially each car brand model has different tools. so even tire maintain shop they are not willing to buy it.

there is a one way you can rotate your tire. take back your wheel in correct location. and only change your tire (wheel can not be changed, becasue the tire sensor had monted in the wheel), because the OEM TPMS has no this new function for reconize seosor ID locatoin. so you only can do this way for DIY.

Try Orange TPMS

Simply not true, you need to do better home work.

actually, they has a special wireless tool to wake up your tire, but the tool is not so cheap, and every

Simply not true, you need to do better home work.

Change where there is a defined benefit is a good thing. However the TPMS is a perfect example of an expensive gee-whiz technology with at best a minimal benefit.

Not sure what you are saying here.....a confusing statement at best.

I think you are saying that your driving skills are pretty good in this paragraph...??? Right???

Not sure what your point is with this statement.

I have no doubt that a tire pressure monitoring system can be accurate as accurate as a good hand held gauge. But if it goes out of calibration then it is not a reliable tool especially for less than sophisticated drivers. A TPMS does not offer much improvement in tire safety over a hand held guage for virtually all drivers in all driving situations. As I remember the TPMS became an issue after a very few drivers of inherently unstable vehicles (SUVs) had blowouts and they reacted the wrong way. A TPMS won't solve that problem.

I've got to ask about knowlege bases. That's a pretty fancy buzzword that just rolls off the tongue of many consultants in these parts. So tell me what a knowlege base looks like and how one can be inside or outside of one.

The fact is that you closed your message with that phrase. Apparently you give little thought to the meaning of words, since in your words: Never Use Them For What They Were Intended. Words are just so much attention getting filler.

I'm not sure this was an issue...

Don't know, are you looking for a scholarship?

A couple of items that seem to be in confusion here.

1. The caddys need to know which sensor is reporting from what corner, hence the reprogramming requirement on a rim relocation.
2. The vette\caddy system is accurate to pounds pressure while the abs derived system is > Dad wrote:

I don't know much about the Public Citizen group, but the concerns they raise are enough to make me wonder how useful tire pressure information will be if the thresholds are as low as they describe. I'm also concerned about a statement by that group that the systems do not have to work with replacement tires. And apparently the final rule says the systems need not measure tire pressure until a motorist has been driving between 30 and 60 miles per hour continuously for 20 minutes. If true, TPMS with that threshold of operation would be useless in most urban/suburban highway settings.

It sounds like there will be little consistency in tire pressure information between car manufacturers because of the exceptions permitted under the rule.

See this link - what do you think:

Since you're cross posting again I thought I'd let you know why I need to know if kindergarten had started. If you are taking it over, as you should, and are able to pass this time I'll be there for you, three years is a long time to make it through any grade. Good luck, you'll need it.

If the op got the tires rotated somewhere,

Because they might want to sell me another car? Oh I forgot, they don't make any money selling the things -- just servicing them. I'm convinced GM deliberately designs systems so complicated they can force you to come back to dealers to have them serviced. Owners can't even perform routine maintenance anymore because it requires special tools or filters/parts available only at the dealer. Really disgusting and one reason I've stopped having anything done except an occasional oil change because I don't keep the things past warranty anyhow.

That is certainly an interesting response to my comment that described the problems with TPMs noted by one consumer group. Apparently you didn't understand their points. Understandable since some of the sentences were rather long and used words with more than one syllable. You had nothing to contribute and chose instead to start talking about kindergarten.

Why do you append inane phrases to your messages.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:48:42 GMT, Windcat puked:

Are you serious? That's not true in the least.

-- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

God did the same thing when he made man, every time my model breaks I have to take it to a doctor to have it repaired. All I can do is feed it and use it, never been able to do any surgery on it myself. Can't even buy a manual for this particular model, what was He thinking, that He was GM?