um ... sorry if this has been gone over a million times. i tried a google search in this newsgroup + edmonds auto but nothing definitive and current has come about.
with the price of gas going nuts in Canada (and particularly schizophrenic in Vancouver), i also find myself in the market for a new car. i'm looking at a 2005 Echo RS (or waiting for the new + rumoured Echo 2006/Vitz -- supposedly due anytime between now and december). after all is said and done with my package i've gone from a base of $12000 to over $22000, after taxes, freight, etc.
but what is the deal with Access Pricing? on several parts of the Toyota website, it states that individual Toyota dealers are allowed to set prices ... and yet five different Toyota dealers i've spoken to have identical pricing -- with no room for negotiation.
i've even asked them point-blank "so if there's nothing to negotiate, why should i buy from you or any other Toyota dealer?" ALL of them replied with "service", and two of them also added, "but there really isn't any difference." (i'm paraphrasing, of course.)
i've found info on lawsuits against Toyota for "price-fixing" because of Access Toyota, and also rumours of the demise of the Access program ... but those date back more than one year.
so ... is Access Toyota REALLY here to stay? any pointers for a buyer interested in a new Toyota? and also: does Access Pricing also apply to any used Toyotas i might buy from a Toyota dealer?
thanks for any info!