"mack"...
It is because the Prius is a better overall design. That is all it is. Tomes
"mack"...
It is because the Prius is a better overall design. That is all it is. Tomes
"Cathy F." ...
I got 54.7 MPG on a tankful for a trip that was mostly interstate in my Prius over the July 4 weekend. It can indeed be done. Tomes
"They were comparing various hybrids to their closest equivalent conventional car (e.g., a Civic Hybrid to a Civic, a Camry Hybrid to a Camry, and a Prius to a Camry). Somehow they concluded that a Camry Hybrid saves more money than a Prius does, when both are compared to a non-hybrid Camry."
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It's so cute when they try to talk about cars.. Like they know what the hell they're looking at..?? If men didn't invent things females'd be living in caves and carrying around each other on their backs, eating bugs when hungry...Wait..that reminds me of my ex...
The new corolla is the best deal of all. Must of been a female who wrote that article as much of it is factually wrong.
They should have compared the prius to the corolla as it is almost exactly the same size. When you do that, you'll see you'd have to drive about 90k miles to justify the added expense.
And at that point you're looking at major problems with the prius' extra complexity. Comparing a camry hybrid to a camry is ok. But that is about the only thing that makes sense.
Everybody was out on the road to celebrate the holiday, there was heavy traffic and stop & go mostly on the interstate? =)
And here I thought they were celebrating the overpopulation of our species.
"EdV" ...
LOL indeed. Actually, we were discussing the dearth of vehicles on the road due to the cost of gas. We just cruised right along. Tomes
Just think, three years ago we could have slapped a buck a gallon tax on gas to encourage conservation and the overall price would probably be lower today. Why, the 450 million raised each day would have paid for our pointless war. The debt would be lower, the dollar higher and oil about 50 buck a barrel. Could this have been a great world or what????
On Jul 16, 10:02 pm, "Tomes" wrote: , there was
I've seen one gas station in Central NJ which offers discount of
12cents /gallon if you pay in cash and not by card. I hope many stations will follow
Apparently retail credit card contracts have changed. They one I entered into ten years ago prohibited discounts for cash.
In the 1982, credit card contracts prohibited surcharges for using the card, but said nothing about discounts for cash. I haven't heard about any changes to that in the past twenty years.
"Michelle Steiner"...
That is a problem. I always thought that charging a different price for credit was against the agreement. There must be a loophole somewhere. The price advertised (what I see in NJ anyway) is a price, then you get to the pump and find out that they charge extra for a credit card. I then drive away... Some [only some] say cash price on the pole.
And it is not a cash discount, it is a surcharge for credit cards. The competitive price is the one one on the pole. If the price differs upwards, it is a surcharge. Would I pay a surcharge at a restaurant? Nope.
While I understand that some folks still want to pay with cash, the economy is moving to or has moved to an electronic basis now. I know I don't want to carry around hundreds of dollars on me and also be going to the ATM constantly. I go get cash to go get gas? I think not.
I googled this a little bit and here are some interesting discussions, fyi:
In particular from here
The price on the pole is the advertised price. Tomes
A surcharge for using the card IS a discount for not using it.
These agreements vary and a retailer can shop the banks (brokers) for the best deal on the same card or combination of cards.
I agree with you regarding the use of credit cards and take advantage of the cash premium. Still, financial counselors advise people who have trouble living within a budget to use cash exclusively. Put your budget in your purse and you always know how much you have left, they say.
In effect, maybe, but not legally.
Gasoline prices is a different story completely; different rules from retail-store sales, as I understand it.
Usually the price on the post is Regular Unleaded Premium Unleaded Super Unleaded
The price, or advertised price, on the post for this gas station is:
3.89 4.01 From a far you will think the 3.89 is regular and 4.01 is the premium right? but when you reach the pump it says cash and credit price. You look back at the big post and the fine print will show cash and credit as well. I didn't have cash so I drove away and pumped up on a 3.94/gallon station cash and credit.
Bet they include checks in their definition of cash. At least they should now that checks can be processed immediately by EFT (Electronic Fund Transfer) thereby eliminating the dishonored check problem. I have EFTs going both ways and have yet to be charged a fee. You don't even have to fill out the check and it is handed back to you after the transaction.
Also for Ford and others. That company is light years ahead on hybrid development and do they know what hybrid models to bring out.
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