Origin Sticker question

I don't know why it works, since without a "References:" header by all rights it shouldn't, but Forte Agent 2.0 Build 652 has been threading his stuff in with the rest of the posts just fine. Nothing broken about them at this end.

Maybe your XanaNews is the one with the problem...? ;-P

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Bruce L. Bergman
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See, you are making my point quite well. The Reference header is not available so if your Agent is still threading the conversation then perhaps it is being non-compliant with the standards...?

Anyway, I hope he got the answer he needed with his Toyota problem.

Reply to
badgolferman

We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know that build quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL

mike hunt

Reply to
Mike Hunter

When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain your idea.

Reply to
FanJet

Don't put to much emphasis on a JD Powers survey. There are far better measuring sticks for manufacturing plants. Just think not even 15 years ago JD Powers was just an upstart. Careful on quoting a JD Powers survey. Don't forget that JD Powers places Buick ahead of Toyota in their vehicle surveys. For 2005 its 163PP100 for Buick and 194PP100 for Toyota. We know the true story here. My Camry was made in Kentucky in 1989 and I still drive it with 243,000 miles on it. Location isn't a factor anymore.

Tony

Reply to
TonyJ

As I have already said, we did expect you to be astute enough to know that build quality is a function of management, not the workers. You are free to believe whatever you wish . LOL

mike hunt

Reply to
Mike Hunter

"Mike" is right, on this issue. Management designs systems that ensure quality. You don't blame "Bubba" for screwing-up the job. You make it so it's really hard for Bubba to screw it up in the first place.

Reply to
dizzy

BS. As I said: "When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain your idea." If management hires bubbas, they get what they paid for.

Recent "management" examples:

bush - scew-up of the century.

Carly Fiorina HP CEO. She trashes the corporation and the name, turning it into a purveyor of junk. When they finally manage to get rid of her, she leaves with a huge wad of cash and a recommendation.

Condoleezza Rice. While pretending to be our national security advisor,

9/11 happens. Really nothing more than a bush suck-up from Texas, she miraculously gets promoted to secretary of state.

If given a chance, workers produce quality while management is busily designing systems that never work. Of course there are exceptions but that's the rule.

Reply to
FanJet

With your examples you have made Mike Hunt's case.

Reply to
badgolferman

Condoleezza Rice is not from Texas. Prior to her current job as Secretary of State, here is her bio:

Dr. Condoleezza Rice became the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor, on January 22, 2001.

In June 1999, she completed a six year tenure as Stanford University 's Provost, during which she was the institution's chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students.

As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching.

At Stanford, she was a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control from 1981-1986 (currently the Center for International Security And Cooperation), a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions.

From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military.

She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula . In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco.

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the National Defense University in 2002, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in Washington, D.C.

Reply to
Mark A

Oh. My. God. Dizzy agreed with Mike.

This is it, 'Lizabeth! This is the Big One!

Reply to
Hachiroku

I stand corrected: a bush suck-up from Alabama.

Reply to
FanJet

As I said, you're wrong. You haven't figured it out.

Part of management's job is training Bubba, or replacing him if needed. Get better tools. Alter the design. Perform checks. Whatever. Bottom line, quality is managements's responsibility. Period.

Reply to
dizzy

I would like to see your bio, so we can compare it to Condoleezza Rice.

Reply to
Mark A

Unfortunately (for us), she doesn't live up to its breadth or length. Common problem with people and resumes. I'll assume you've taken the time to notice her job performance or better put, lack thereof. Nuff said.

Reply to
FanJet

Quality is everyone's responsibility and that should be obvious.

Reply to
FanJet

So, tell us.. what IS the true story?

Reply to
FanJet

I'm glad to hear you've had so much luck with your Camry. Here's to another 243,000 miles!

I was just wondering if you've had to do any repair work on the engine, tranz, or other part of the car, other than regular maintenance?

Thanks.

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Built_Well

For those sweet Aichi machines that were made in Japan, the parts content shows 80 percent USA/Canada parts and

20 percent Japan parts. But the engine and tranz both show the origin as Japan.

Are the engine and transmission counted as a single part each; how does that work?

Also, if their origin is Japan, does that mean the engine and tranz are composed of Japanese parts exclusively, or perhaps they too contain some "AC Delco"-like parts from USA/Canada?

By the way, I'm sure *most* U.S. and Candadian parts are superb as I know my fellow Americans make top-notch products, but I fear there might be one or two sub-par parts that might have snuck in there, and that's why I really wanted to replace my superb "J-Vin" Tercel with a "J-Vin" Camry.

Alas, you just can't count on American management like you can Japanese management, I suppose--and I say that as being one-hundred percent American, so don't blame our Japanese friends for this post :-)

Thanks so much.

Reply to
Built_Well

By the way, in my previous post, I was blaming American

*management*, not American/Canadian *Workers*. Like Mike Hunter, I also believe quality is a function of management.

I think workers are equally competent around the world. So if one country makes better cars than another, I would guess it's because *MANAGEMENT* is taking short cuts to save money--say using inferior parts or following the principles of built-in obsolescence or lowering quality control all to save money. Yet it sure has backfired over the past 2 decades as *Management* has led GM and Ford to the brink of bankruptcy.

Does Rick Wagoner really deserve a yearly pay of 4.66 million? I have to wonder how much Mister Watanabe and Mr. Suzuki of Toyota are making....

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Built_Well

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