Does my 1998 Camry need a new oxygen sensor?

Nov 07, 2005 4 Replies

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m Ransley

My mechanic tested the o2 sensor on something like an engine anaylzer with tailpipe sensor, any mechanic that does not test something is a hack.

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Hi all,



Sometime over the summer, the "check engine" light in my 1998 Camry started coming on every once in a while. Sometimes it would stay on for a few days, other times just a few minutes.



My mechanic had a look at it in September and said I needed a new O2 sensor (error code was: P1133 Bank 1, Sensor 1). I asked him if the intake was too high or too low, but he said his technician had reset the code before he had a chance to look at it and he couldn't remember what it said.



My mechanic was pressing me to replace the sensor ASAP, but a friend of mine suggested I should wait and see if the light comes on again. The "check engine" light has not come on since it was reset two months ago.



I don't want to spend $250 + labour on an O2 sensor I don't need. How important is it for me to change it?



My mechanic tested the o2 sensor on something like an engine anaylzer with tailpipe sensor, any mechanic that does not test something is a hack.

The engine management computer constantly tests the O2 sensor by adjusting the engines mixture slightly off stoichemetric (14.7:1 air:fuel ratio) in both directions (rich and then lean), while simultaneously looking for the correct correlating signal from the O2 sensor. If the signal from the sensor remains unchanged, then the computer will light the check-engine lamp.

Its possible, the sensor was temporarily unserviceable due to an intermittant wiring fault, or some exhaust deposit on the sensor.

To be sure, I'd ak the mechanic if he has done something to the car to stop the alarm,..other wise all could now be well.

If your economu is normal, that's another indicator the O2 sensor is working.

Jason

If it isn't working properly you should change it, but I would try some Red Line complete fuel system cleaner first. Can be used continuously and is reported to clean emission control components. O2 sensor in my '94 still tests good - although it is a slightly different design than yours, I believe those sensors tend to fail from carbon accumulation so would try the cleaner - but only the Red Line was rigorously tested and approved by BMW. Others have solvents, or raise combustion temperatures. Just my opinon, but have been very pleased. If you're intersted, their web site has an extensive technical data section.

True, the only way to test an oxygen sensor is with smog equipment or in a lab while looking at the waveforms, but nevertheless a difficult thing to do. So if it's not giving you MIL codes and your mileage is not dropping then you may want to wait on it.

There are many posts lately on failing Camry oxygen sensors. So I'll say stay away from Denso ones. If you need to replace it, get a Bosch unit. I think Densos are el-cheapo units that fail early, their website still thinks today's engines are dumping lead and coolant onto the sensors.

US made Toyotas are more likely to get a Bosch unit than Densor or NTK.

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