CIS Metering plate questions

1) yes 2) never though about it don't know 3) should be smooth motion

If you don't get the above you might need to clean the plunger inside of the fuel distributor.

HTH Steve

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sehaare
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Stupid metering plate questions in a CIS (probably also CIS-E) VW:

1) If I take the top of the airfilter box out and turn it upside down, should the metering plate just open by gravity? After all, when in the car gravity will bring it down. 2) Does it have some kind of damping in its hinge, to account for bumpy roads and so on? 3) This one is the hardest: how sluggish should it feel? Say, you turn it sideways and move it with you hand. How should it feel?
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Mauricio

The metering plate has a counterbalancing weight on the opposite end of the lever, beyond the pivot. In theory it will be perfectly balanced. In practice, if you turn the fuel distributor upsided down, the metering plate might fall slowly open by gravity (indicating things are slightly out of balance).

If the fuel system is pressurized and you turn the fuel distributor/air flow meter upside down, the metering plate should probably not fall open. The fuel pressure on the plunger should keep the metering plate closed.

There is no damping. There is a counterbalance weight. When you run over bumps, both the counterbalance weight and the metering plate have equal forces acting on them, and the whole thing remains balanced.

The only thing that might mess up the mixture slightly is if the car rotates along the axis of the pivot. The inertia of the metering plate and the counterbalance can cause the arm to move and can change the fuel delivery rate slightly (actually, the arm, metering plate and counterbalance weight stay static and the housing moves, but the effect is the same).

Generally speaking, if you start to rotate the car quickly on that axis, or have the car rotating on that axis and quickly stop the rotation, you have far more serious problems than the fuel mixture going screwy.

With pressure in the fuel system, there should be some resistance to lifting the plate. It should be smooth throughout it's operating range. Also, if you lift the plate and then drop it suddenly, the piston probably won't fall as quickly as the metering plate. If you lift it immediately after dropping it quickly, there will be no resistance for part of the way up, until you reach the point where the plunger is, then you will feel the slight resistance again. It takes about a second (rough guess) for the plunger to return from the top to the bottom.

-- Racer X

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