Charities are reporting a great reduction in the number of automobiles being donated. In some (many?) cases, charities were reconditioning donated clunkers for use as basic transportation for people to get to jobs, and in the process training other people in basic automobile repairs to enable them to get work.
Perce
Been on the news for a while already about this. Seems to me some of the cars turned in(with marginally bad gas mileage) could be given to these organizations for turning around to folks in need rather then destroyed. Maybe even give the tax breaks to the dealers since they don't seem to be getting much of the clunker money promised by our government...
That would just result in corrupt practices by scam artists. Billions would be needed to monitor such a program to prevent fraud, and the fraud would happen anyway. The costs would outweigh the benefits (but that wouldn't bother them). The important thing is that they feel good about it, and if it costs the taxpayer more money that they don't have for them to feel good about it, then so be it. It would be another way to funnel more money to ACORN and their off-shoot corporations, but to Obama, that would be the real benefit.
And they want to run our health care!
Liberal ideas *always* fail to anticipate the unintended consequences and end up hurting the very people they claim to be caring and looking out for. The results are always the opposite of the stated intent.
I wouldn't be surprised if the government's solution is to forcibly take billions *more* out of our pockets to "right" this result of their incompetence - and they'll call that stimulus.
Put that comment in the perspective of eight years of Bush/Cheney lies.
Besides you not being able to provide specific examples of opposite results of stated intent from the liberal ideas of Bush/Cheney, we are talking about cash for clunkers and the present situation. Care to join into that conversation - and without the Saul Alinsky "Rules for Radicals" methods (that don't seem to be working too well for Obama right now).
Note the newsgroup is rec.autos.makers.chrysler
WTF does your limp "liberal ideas *always* fail" generalization and post have to do with it, hypocrite?
Umm - clunkers are cars. Chryslers are cars. Chryslers can be clunkers in the context of this discussion. The cash for clunkers idiocy falls under the broader category of "liberal ideas..." that "...always fail". Too many steps for you to follow, perhaps.
Yeah, right.
Take it and uranus to alt.politics.planet.arch-winguts.whackjobs
Haven't you figured out that Saul Alinsky tactics don't work anymore? Obama et al are finding that out once they got out of the Chicago microcosm where people fall for that crap. Free speech wins out when things aren't rushed thru under the guise of being an emergency and people don't have a chance to read, consider, and discuss what the heck they are voting on. For Obama to pass his stuff from now on, he'll have to crush free speech. We'll see how that goes. eh?
Like dumbya's PATRIOT Act, right, moron? What a friggin cretin.
Take it and uranus to alt.politics.planet.arch-wingnut.whackjob.liars
Saul Alinsky and his tactics are dead.
Answer the question, you dissembling f****it.
Like dumbya's PATRIOT Act, right?
Take it and uranus to alt.politics.planet.arch-wingnut.whackjob.liars
I have. Then I put that comment in the perspective of 7 months of Obama/Biden. It's even worse.
Most of the contents of the patriot act was written before Bush was even in office.
I am really getting tired of flyers being left on my 1993 Voyager, telling me that "this vehicle qualifies for the "cash for clunkers program."" First of all, it is not a "clunker," and I plan on keeping it for many more years, thank you.
Even with the incentives, insurance costs are higher on a new vehicle, as are registration fees. Our state has quadrupled the fees over the past several years.
-KM
Saul Alinsky and his Rules for Radicals are dead.
Info. on Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones: Excerpt from a Nov. 2005 interview in the East Bay Express: Jones had planned to move to Washington, DC, and had already landed a job and an apartment there. But in jail, he said, "I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'" Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. "I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary." In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist." In 1994, the young activists formed a socialist collective, Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM, which held study groups on the theories of Marx and Lenin and dreamed of a multiracial socialist utopia. They protested police brutality and got arrested for crashing through police barricades. In 1996, Jones decided to launch his own operation, which he named the Ella Baker Center after an unsung hero of the civil-rights movement.
This is the kind of people who are trying to run our country.
The most controversial provisions in the Act, including FISA, were subject to 'sunset' provisions in 2005. It was these provisions that Bush subsequently tortured in the Reauthorization, and violated to boot, including via domestic warrantless wiretapping.
Putney the frustrated, dissembling f****it and his soapbox are empty.
Get used to it.
We're not going back to your wrong-way, dead-end thinking for at least another 7-1/2 years.
Don't count your chickens til they hatch...
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