citroen main dealer price gouging

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*rant on*
xantia rear spheres
main dealer £44.00+VAT ea local factors £28.80 ea
brake discs (ZX)
main dealer £65+VAT /pair local factors £18.00 /pair
I'm gutted at paying for servicing. I need that stamp in the book but, ffs, it makes me mad when they try and gouge another £280+VAT out of me on top of the service interval charge.
/end rant
still, I have booked a full days test drive in a fully loaded brand spanking new 2.0HDi 16v 6 speed C5. I'm currently using auoroute to see just how many miles I can cover in a day ;-)
RT
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[news] ( snipped-for-privacy@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Andyspares £19+vat

Andyspares from £4 each depending on spec of car...

Not having a main dealer stamp is going to make NO difference on any Xant or ZX now. Hell, I'd rather see decent Citroen specialist or other indie stamps than a clueless dealer any day of the week.
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Adrian wrote:

thanks for those, I'll have a look. do you know anyone that swaps ZX front wishbone bushes ? I've no time / place to do it ;-)

a mint 7yo. xantia with a genuine 78K on it ? get a grip, of course it matters.

you and I both know that but the car's up for sale and Joe Public wants to see FCSH, a load of stamps from the same main dealer network in the book and a reassuring sheaf of receipts for works already done.
it's not about making money on the sale, it's about getting a smooth, quick sale.
RT
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[news] ( snipped-for-privacy@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Where are you?
The Citroen Car Club runs a Citroen Specialist garage recommendation scheme for members - www.citroencarclub.org.uk

No, it isn't. I'm not suggesting "no service history" - but it REALLY does not matter who's serviced it - it is DEFINITELY not worth the premium for a dealer service.

Sorry, but you will have spent FAR more on one dealer service than it will make difference, pricewise.

It still doesn't matter.
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Adrian wrote:

midlands. can travel, can't accomodate ;-)

thanks for the tip.

for a /dealer/ service ? probably not, but it looks nice in the book, a complete set of main dealer stamps looks a whole lot better *to the average joe* than a selection of independent garages of indeterminate pedigree.

bullshit. don't generalise. you've no idea what I paid for the car, the service (stamp + the extras) or what the vehicle is worth. not to mention the fact that there's a whole load of main dealer history I got printed out that I wasn't aware of when I took a punt on the car.
what price can you put on not having to grub about under a car at -2 in the snow, in the street ? been there, done that, risen above it ;-)

yeah, ok. whatever you say. I'll just put to one side everything I've learned over the last 20 years about car, motorbike and van buying/selling
thanks for the www.citroencarclub.org.uk tip
RT
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:43:43 +0000, [news] wrote:

My Xantia Activa is just over 8 years old with 63k on the clock, i think it has a FSH from main dealers up until I got it. I would be very lucky to sell it for more than a grand, the most recent service would have cost 250 quid at a Citroen main dealer, my local guy down the road did it for 60 quid inc. parts...

Normal Joe publics don't buy Citroen, they buy Ford of Vauxhaul ;)
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[news] ( snipped-for-privacy@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

They're not "2.0i" - Activas only had the TCT motor in the UK, although LHD markets got v6 Activas, lucky sods. But they'll stay in Autotrader at that price.
No Xant bar a very late HDi estate is worth much over fifteen hundred quid absolute tops. Even an HDi would struggle to beat two grand, and it'd have to be *perfect*.
If it'd been maintained only by Citroen dealers, it wouldn't be. They're all clueless. Especially the Citroen dealer that put normal brake fluid in my mother's Xantia.
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Adrian wrote:

so what you're saying is that you have absolutely no idea how the used car market operates on a day to day basis ? every car you see advertised at a price *you personally* consider to be overpriced will sit on autotrader until it rots ? no buyers will ever materialise, ever ?
righto. thanks for that. now we're all as clued up as you ;-)
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[news] ( snipped-for-privacy@x.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

<shrug> Tell you what - you ring 'em in a week or two or three and ask if they're still for sale.
Last Xant I bought was a 16v Dimension for my old man, '96/N, 100k, just had a cambelt and clutch. It's been perfectly reliable since he's had it.
£600 he paid.
Two years ago.
And that's a DAMN sight more "desirable" a car to Joe Public than an Activa - fun though they may be, they're bloody money pits.
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:02:12 +0000, Adrian wrote:

Yup, thats why when you buy an Activa you buy it from trade rather than public, and when the faults show themselves you tell them to fix it "or else"....
At least it worked for me, sorta. :)
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hissing ( snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

...go round and find he's mysteriously emigrated.
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:06:52 +0000, Adrian wrote:

Hehehe, the seller of mine didn't, although he shat himself when some legalise found its way through his mailbox (at least judging by the phone call I got). I do note that he no longer sells hydraulic citroens though ;)
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*Ahem* I think you'll find that the persons on the list (and especially the UK ones) have a very good idea of how the UK secondhand car market works in relation to oleopneumatic Citroens. It is after all the way that we cheapskates can dick about in seriously high spec motors for very little cash.
My brother for example makes a healthy profit from buying (P to T reg) Xants at effectively scrap prices from the local auction, changing whatever hydraulic bits are knackered that scare off Joe Public and flogging them as high spec very cheap motor cars (he generally expects to get between 8 and fifteen hundred for a *really* good one and the top end of that is reserved for high spec diesel estates).
Xantias and XMs are cheap as chips, its a fact of Citroen ownership. The fact that they are far better than Frauds and Vauxhells escapes the public and all they see are expensive repair bills for complicated suspension.
Long may the myth continue...
...long may my driving of great cheap cars continue.
CAS
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members of the XM-L mailing list are extremely jealous of the prices we can buy XMs for here in the UK.
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True - I wonder how much it would cost to convert 'em back to LHD...?
;-)
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like XMs. I had one and had no major problems apart from a snapped parking brake which I found a quick and easy fix for. It was one of the best drives I ever had. What I'd like is the diesel estate version with climate control etc if such a thing exists.
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You'd be quicker looking for rockinghorse sh*t!!!
The 2.5l diesel estate is an absolute corker of a car - you can get wardrobes in the back... whole! And it goes like stink.
They aren't actually that rare, its just that they are so good that nobody wants to sell them!
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:15:56 +0000, CAS wrote:

There is 3 or 4 on Autotrader at the moment :)
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I'll shut my face...
...get my coat...
...etc.
CAS
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:24:53 +0000, [news] wrote:

After a bit of a fiddle with autotrader, there are 11 Activas for sale in the .uk just a shame some of them have been on there for nearly 2 months now..... I still don't buy the FSH thing, my first Xantia was an L reg VSX with 67k on it, in Y2k. It was listed in autotrader at 3300 quid, and the book price iirc was 3500. I paid 2600 in cash for it and it had a FSH and had been on sale for some months.....
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