When the Japanese Take over the the US Auto Industry the US will have Hell to pay

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What's the "bullshit"?
You like Roger Smith?


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Plus, as I recall - may be wrong,

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This would be the specific thing that I was talking about. You seem to think you know everything, so I assume you *knew* it was false when you typed it.
Dave
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Sure, that's why I said I might be wrong. Of course, I was right.
Ain't it a bitch when that happens?

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Or is this what you mean by "bullshit"?
"Under New York State law, at least, workers faced with an unyielding employer during a strike can qualify for unemployment insurance benefits after seven weeks, giving them a greater economic ability to sustain themselves during long labor disputes."
from: http://www.agendaforjustice.org/unemployment_insurance_in_strikes /

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Hmmm...I wonder how many UAW auto plants there are in New York.
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Hey, if there was only one, at the time, it's still true. I would guess that the same sort of thing was true in rust-belt states with strong Democrat leanings. Don't know for sure.
I don't know everything, but I do know a lot about cars and the car business from being an avid car buff since I was 1966 and from having read newspapers through the years. When I am less than sure about a point of fact, I say I'm not sure. Opinions are opinions, but things presented as fact should have more than an opinion behind them and that's what I try to provide.
Have a nice day.

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I'll bow to your greater experience since you have 1910 years on me. ;-)
Dave
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You got me. I typo'd. Should have been "since I was a teenager in 1966".
My apologies for any confusion. (I'd do an emoticon, too, but I hate the things.)
- GRL

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that's not what you're argument was. you said the japanese would win the war. that ignores the fact the europeans, chinese and koreas could provide the compeitition if GM and Ford just suddenly disappeared.
Your points are juvenile at best, naive probably best describes it. JP
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At this time European and Korean cars are such a small part of the Japanese competition in this country...that is my point. Juveniles are the first to call names when there ability to understand is lacking.
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The brilliance you display is the kind that got GM and Ford into the rough waters they are in now. I urge you to get rid of it soon as you can.
Now, here is what Toyota really thinks of its situation. Fellow who runs Toyota USA in the April MT (he an gringo ex-Ford guy) says that while Toyota is #4 in the U.S. market, they run the company as if they were #8. When times are good, they figure that means that big trouble is on the way. In the best of times they strive for a small percentage increase in sales. When times re bad they strive for a small percentage increase in sales. As for the Koreans, Toyota has nothing but respect for them and how quickly they have come so far. Further down the line, the Chinese are coming. Toyota runs scared all the time...and there is plenty to be scared about...with or without GM/Ford. I sure wish, as a GM share-holder, that GM would hire a whole bunch of ex-Toyota execs to run the company.
I urge you to drive on down to your library and read the interview. It is highly informative.

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Aw gee, Boohoo...the American consumer didn't have to help GM and Ford. They have been working hard at self destruction for decades.
If those carmakers want our support, then they should provide what we want.
And we want quality, economy, and design... Not a frikking warm water washer.
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No argument from me...they did indeed assist in cutting there own throats. But...not including the GM intake gasket problem that they have ignored for years, they actually make a pretty dependable product from my experience. But since they ignored the IG problem for over 10 years they are on my shit list. So if I buy another GM product anytime soon they wil have to damn near give me the car with incentives, or come out with something I really want. Luckily my current GM product with 128k miles still run damn near like new as well as looks nice so I am not really looking for anything, but when I do they better have some different offerings if the want my business. I am still not ready to buy japanese because I would feel like a traitor.
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And I think that's the problem with GM. They actually build a very reliable car (IMHO) and some of the best transmissions in the world. But, a reliable car just isn't enough. The best cars provide style, reliability, quality interior materials, good fit-and-finish and a good ride/handling combination. Basically, something that's durable and you're not embarrassed to sit in or be seen in.
GM's done a good job at times with *parts* of the forumla, but seems to be having trouble with "the whole package"... and far too much of the limitation comes from their corporate cost-cutting mentality. Parts sharing, cutting costs in interiors to get a fraction of a percentage additional profit.
I currently own a GM (saturn) and ford product. My favorite and best car by FAR was a Mazda, and my older VW was a close second. We had a 2003(?) accord which was a terrific car, and I certainly *get* why people buy them...but it didn't have the same emotional connection my Mazda had.
Personally, I'd like to try a Nissan next, but if I were in the market for a midsized car, I'd be getting a Fusion.
JP
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and I hate the way the foam comes loose on the steering wheel. You can rotate it around the frame of the wheel... this smacks of garbage. I think it's due to getting hot and the glue coming free, well, duh, it's under glass and sun. Haven't seen it on a ford and never on a foreign car.

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That may be your opinion and you are entitled to it, but it is that of a minority. The fact is more buyers in the US apparently believe the vehicles sold by GM, Ford and Chrysler are better than any of the imports. Buyers in the US still buy far more of the vehicle from GM, Ford and Chrysler than ANY of the import brands. My current 2005 and 2005 domestics are great cars and my previous six domestics proved to be dependable cars. To be fair my previous seven imports were good cars as well, but certainly no better than the domestics I have owned recently ;)
mike hunt

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sounds like you go through a lot of cars, most cars are great in the first few years.

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I'm eighty years old and run two cars. Any car one can buy today will easily last up to 200K if given the proper preventive maintenance. However few Americans keep their vehicle long enough to reach that kind of mileage The fact is the average new vehicle buyer in the US replaces their vehicle in three to four years with 45K to 60K on the clock. Even the average used car buy in the US replaces their used vehicle in two to three years. One can search the US Commerce Department for the detains if interested.
mike hunt

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wow that should make it easier to get a good used car (due to sloanism).
We've had our clubwagon since Oct 96 (97 model year), take good care of it, it has 122K on the odo.
Our Mercury GM has approximately 144k on the odo, purchased it from a friend whose father in law had it since 1990, he put 99k on it, it's been good too (had the heater core done for 550.oo.. ouch.
need to do something with the driver seat though, getting uncomfortable with the cushion wearing out.

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I love used car buyers. If it were not for those waiting to buy my used vehicles it would cost me a lot more to buy my new cars. Now if I could only find somebody to by all of my wife's used clothing and furniture, that she now gives away, I could save a small fortune LOL
mike hunt

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