As the US consumer assists in helping the Japanese take over the US auto
industry by wiping GM an Ford off the map thereby reducing all major
competition I suspect the quality control to go down on these cars to an
extent. With the less competition with Ford and GM 6 feet under the Japanese
would have won the war and finally put a close to WWII once and for all.
Quality will fade and japan will more than likely begin to cut corners while
racking in tremendous profit. Customer service as well as repair will
probably also suffer. So all of the Americans who now suck up to Japanese
car companies will realing know what sucking means when all is said and
Because, of course even IF the us auto manufacturers did 100% shut down,
there's no korean, european, or upcoming chinese manufacturers to
provide competition to the japanese brands.
you're friggin' brilliant, troll.
Interestingly it is a competition between Quality and cutting corners
There is nothing saying that even though GM will be bankrupt that it
Quality is winning and all manufacturers need better Quality to stay in
Toyota is winning because of better Quality
The other companies are learning from them more or less
Cutting corners is no longer an option
Even GM is not immune to the competition
Only question is if GM will survive
They will no longer be number one
US car industry is gaining from this competition
They had been cutting corners for too long
I doubt quality has slipped in Japan simply because they have little
competition. Their people demand quality. Americans demand different
things. I'm in the minority on this I think, but I don't care much
about fit and finish except if it's a sign of overall poor quality. I
want something simple, low maintenance, reliable, easy to repair and
that runs forever. That also seems to make me the manufacturer's least
I think you are wrong, for years Japan has been the guinea pig for japanese
cars. They were building and selling shitty cars to there own people first
to iron out all the bugs before introducing them to the US. That has been
there history and it is a fact. Look it up. So the japanese people were
driving troublesome cars that were fixed then introduced here.
I don't think this is supportive. I lived in Japan for three years and saw
many wonderful cars/SUVs before the US ever heard of SUV. They were also
very good vehicles, including the one's I owned. This opinion below doesn't
hold water especially when one considers the registration process that
Japanese cars go through. Keeping a car in Japan gets real expensive after
five years due to the registration /safety (sic) process. If anything,
their gov't is making the auto machine run by forcing their people to start
looking for a new car after 3 years. Hey! They never get to the point where
the cars fall apart, unless they are rich and then they don't care. Look
What utter and complete nonsense. The Japanese automobile customer does not
tolerate poor quality. If they did, the several attempts by GM to export
cars in numbers to Japan would have succeeded and not failed miserably like
You cannot possibly actually believe what you wrote.
Bob, you need to do a bit of research about auto ownership in Japan.
Japan requires very strict vehicle inspections. As a result, vehicles in
are usually scrapped after they are about 6 years old, because it's not cost
effective to repair them. And we are talking they get out the micrometers
measure bearing wear.
Why is it done this way? Well, the vehicle manufacturers have pressured
the government into this so as to force obsolescense and sell a lot more
Also, the Japanese culture and people are such that the culture prefers
home grown products over imports. Keep in mind that it hasn't yet been
a century since Japan lost to the United States in WWII. And this is
a culture that one of their biggest festivals - Obon - takes a week and it's
sole purpose is to honor deceased ancestors. A lot of Japanese feel
subconsciously that buying American is dishonoring ancestors who were
killed in WWII or fought Americans in WWII.
In the United States the culture is completely different than in Japan. It
is very common for Americans to project their culture on everyone else.
It is doubtful in the US for example that anyone under the age of 20
could even tell you if any of their grandparents fought in WWII let alone
which ones. This is a strength of the American culture because it makes
it a lot easier for us to forgive and forget and move on with life. But
it puts blinders on us when we try to understand other cultures,
ones that have many many thousands of years of history. You must
understand that the Japanese culture is very very different than the US.
This is, after all, a society where 30% of the homes have toilets that cost
and have computers in them. (and I'm not talking computers that you type
if you want to see a Japanese toilet control panel see here:
First of all, it is not easy to gain entry to the U.S. market. Their are EPA
and NHTSA hurdles that are significant...like crashing cars and gathering
I do not know that the equivalent Japanese restrictions are harder or
easier, but there is also the matter of them driving on the other side of
the road from us. I do know that the restrictions were eased years ago from
what they were. I doubt that they ever had a 25% tariff on pick-up trucks
like we did for years, by way of comparison.
European brands do quite well in Japan because owning something like a
Bimmer or Merc is very prestigious in Japan. Few American brands are
considered prestigious and most of what the U.S. brands have been making is
simply too large to sell in Japan. The country is very congested, streets
are narrow, and your typical U.S. truck or medium sized sedan or mini-van
would not fit there. Eve if the quality were of a level that they are used
There is some truth to this argument, and the unions have to realize
they need to offer concessions to help be part of the solution or
they're just going to be the final straw that breaks GM. However, it's
not all to be laid at the feet of organized labor. We're not here to
argue the necessity of unions or not in todays world, but 30+ years of
GM & ford management have agreed to the flawed plans that led to this
As a retired maintenance man from GM I have to agree with you. If the UAW
contracts are destroying Ford and GM, why didn't management use some of
their lawyers to find how these would affect future profitablity. They most
likely figured the the goose would always lay golden eggs. I don't see
anything sinister about their decisions, just stupidity. For example look at
No lawyers, good business financial planners.
Yes they obviously were looking short term and gave it to the unions
when money was flowing in.
Unfortunately GM places too much emphasis on volume of sales, but GMAC
loves big sales.
As for the Aztec, I still can't stand it. I feel almost as negative
about the Chrysler 300 styling.
OK, I bow to no one in my contempt for idiotic past GM management (can you
say R-o-g-e-r S-m-i-t-h), but to be fair what these clowns were trying to do
was buy a degree of labor peace (get longer term contracts avoiding the
threat of costly annual strikes) with money and benefits that they could not
afford long term. The UAW always had an ace up its sleeve. They could strike
one manufacturer, while it's members in the other two kept paying dues that
went into strike pay for the strikers. Plus, as I recall - may be wrong, the
strikers could get unemployment benefits from the government. Pretty good
stacking of the deck against the manufacturer, no?
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