As the US consumer assists in helping the Japanese take over the US auto
industry by wiping GM an Ford off the map thereby reducing all major
competition I suspect the quality control to go down on these cars to an
extent. With the less competition with Ford and GM 6 feet under the Japanese
would have won the war and finally put a close to WWII once and for all.
Quality will fade and japan will more than likely begin to cut corners while
racking in tremendous profit. Customer service as well as repair will
probably also suffer. So all of the Americans who now suck up to Japanese
car companies will realing know what sucking means when all is said and
Because, of course even IF the us auto manufacturers did 100% shut down,
there's no korean, european, or upcoming chinese manufacturers to
provide competition to the japanese brands.
you're friggin' brilliant, troll.
that's not what you're argument was. you said the japanese would win the
war. that ignores the fact the europeans, chinese and koreas could provide
the compeitition if GM and Ford just suddenly disappeared.
Your points are juvenile at best, naive probably best describes it.
At this time European and Korean cars are such a small part of the Japanese
competition in this country...that is my point. Juveniles are the first to
call names when there ability to understand is lacking.
The brilliance you display is the kind that got GM and Ford into the rough
waters they are in now. I urge you to get rid of it soon as you can.
Now, here is what Toyota really thinks of its situation. Fellow who runs
Toyota USA in the April MT (he an gringo ex-Ford guy) says that while Toyota
is #4 in the U.S. market, they run the company as if they were #8. When
times are good, they figure that means that big trouble is on the way. In
the best of times they strive for a small percentage increase in sales. When
times re bad they strive for a small percentage increase in sales. As for
the Koreans, Toyota has nothing but respect for them and how quickly they
have come so far. Further down the line, the Chinese are coming. Toyota runs
scared all the time...and there is plenty to be scared about...with or
without GM/Ford. I sure wish, as a GM share-holder, that GM would hire a
whole bunch of ex-Toyota execs to run the company.
I urge you to drive on down to your library and read the interview. It is
Aw gee, Boohoo...the American consumer didn't have to help GM and Ford.
They have been working hard at self destruction for decades.
If those carmakers want our support, then they should provide what we want.
And we want quality, economy, and design... Not a frikking warm water
No argument from me...they did indeed assist in cutting there own throats.
But...not including the GM intake gasket problem that they have ignored for
years, they actually make a pretty dependable product from my experience.
But since they ignored the IG problem for over 10 years they are on my shit
list. So if I buy another GM product anytime soon they wil have to damn near
give me the car with incentives, or come out with something I really want.
Luckily my current GM product with 128k miles still run damn near like new
as well as looks nice so I am not really looking for anything, but when I do
they better have some different offerings if the want my business. I am
still not ready to buy japanese because I would feel like a traitor.
And I think that's the problem with GM. They actually build a very
reliable car (IMHO) and some of the best transmissions in the world.
But, a reliable car just isn't enough. The best cars provide style,
reliability, quality interior materials, good fit-and-finish and a good
Basically, something that's durable and you're not embarrassed to sit in
or be seen in.
GM's done a good job at times with *parts* of the forumla, but seems to
be having trouble with "the whole package"... and far too much of the
limitation comes from their corporate cost-cutting mentality. Parts
sharing, cutting costs in interiors to get a fraction of a percentage
I currently own a GM (saturn) and ford product. My favorite and best car
by FAR was a Mazda, and my older VW was a close second. We had a 2003(?)
accord which was a terrific car, and I certainly *get* why people buy
them...but it didn't have the same emotional connection my Mazda had.
Personally, I'd like to try a Nissan next, but if I were in the market
for a midsized car, I'd be getting a Fusion.
and I hate the way the foam comes loose on the steering wheel. You can
rotate it around the frame of the wheel... this smacks of garbage. I think
it's due to getting hot and the glue coming free, well, duh, it's under
glass and sun. Haven't seen it on a ford and never on a foreign car.
That may be your opinion and you are entitled to it, but it is that of a
minority. The fact is more buyers in the US apparently believe the vehicles
sold by GM, Ford and Chrysler are better than any of the imports. Buyers in
the US still buy far more of the vehicle from GM, Ford and Chrysler than ANY
of the import brands. My current 2005 and 2005 domestics are great cars and
my previous six domestics proved to be dependable cars. To be fair my
previous seven imports were good cars as well, but certainly no better than
the domestics I have owned recently ;)
I'm eighty years old and run two cars. Any car one can buy today will
easily last up to 200K if given the proper preventive maintenance. However
few Americans keep their vehicle long enough to reach that kind of mileage
The fact is the average new vehicle buyer in the US replaces their vehicle
in three to four years with 45K to 60K on the clock. Even the average used
car buy in the US replaces their used vehicle in two to three years. One
can search the US Commerce Department for the detains if interested.
that should make it easier to get a good used car (due to sloanism).
We've had our clubwagon since Oct 96 (97 model year), take good care of it,
it has 122K on the odo.
Our Mercury GM has approximately 144k on the odo, purchased it from a friend
whose father in law had it since 1990, he put 99k on it, it's been good too
(had the heater core done for 550.oo.. ouch.
need to do something with the driver seat though, getting uncomfortable with
the cushion wearing out.
I love used car buyers. If it were not for those waiting to buy my used
vehicles it would cost me a lot more to buy my new cars. Now if I could
only find somebody to by all of my wife's used clothing and furniture, that
she now gives away, I could save a small fortune LOL
You those same americans who are BUILDING the 'japanese' cars in
American factories ? sure.
I think japanese cars are more american these days than american cars.
Mexico, Canada.. you name it, they all built there.
Dont be fooled by Appearances...they are Japanese cars. Japanese companies
do whatever it is they do here but at the end of the day the money goes back
to Japan. Sure you may have American workers but the Overseer is Japanese
and the American worker does what the Japanese order them to do.
True but if they worked for one of the domestic companies they would be
better off. They would have even more money to go into the stores and bank
their accounts.. Better benefits as well. ;)
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