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Funny how some people spend a good amount of energy trying to discount global warming.
However, let's assume global warming does not exist. Everyone!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with conservation and preventing pollution. Even if you don't believe in pollution.
The true problem that pushes some of these people is that the left has hijacked the movement and turned it into socialist drivel.
You and I know the simple minded hicks out there who sit around the dinner table and yell a quick knee jerk "pollution is not real" when they hear a story about it on the news arent smart enough to think of their own solution.
I believe in global warming, polution and conservation. I also believe that liberals do not have the right answer. I believe a capitalistic friendly answer can work. I am also glad to call myself one of the smart conservatives.
Seriously, it is time for conservatives to rid our group of the one demensional thinking hicks who have the rebel flag hanging off their truck. Let Howard Dean have them...
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Next time you decide to pontificate be sure to run spell check before pressing send.
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No!
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Well, gee, Spelling Police. Shouldn't that be, "click" send? After all, one PRESSES "Enter", but one CLICKS on "send".
He communicated very well and literately, and anyone with half a brain got the message. IT'S USENET, NOT A SPELLING BEE.
Get a life. Or go grade some more freshman English papers.
- Larry A.
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That is a canard. Global warming does indeed exist. No scientist on earth denies that. The globe has been warming since about the year 1500.
What IS in question is man's role in it. The issue is far from settled, despite the dreams of the media and of various activists.
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Tegger

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"Dreams..." I think that is part of the sickness in the oponents mentality. No one wants man influenced global warming to exist. There are plenty of issues to pummel each other with.
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Tegger wrote:

Agreed.
Graham
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Tegger wrote:

And yet I believe you missed his point completely. We can do certain things to reduce pollution and conserve resources and we can do them without crippling business or reverting to the stone age.
BTW - there are people - even scientists - who deny that global warming exists.
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"Fred G. Mackey" wrote:

Increasing numbers of scientists in fact as they all gradually get annoyed with the rubbish that's currently being peddled.
The bizarre thing is the 'global warming establishment' is now trying to muzzle their critics by applying wokplace / employment pressure and the like. If their case is so watertight, how come they're so frightened of questions or debate ?
Graham
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Same thing that the liberals are afraid of, so they have to muzzle conservatives and the religious right. The Emperor has no clothes. . . . And both the conservatives and the religious have noticed.
Charles of Schaumburg
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n5hsr wrote:

There's no political distinction in Europe. Right, left and centre have all fallen for this hogwash.
Religion doesn't play a role in it here.
Graham
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Yes, but over here in the States, the Left is trying to silence anybody to the right of them. That includes most moderates. They've been trying since Clinton took over in 1993. They're espeically upset since GW won in 2000 and 2004. And they're not happy about the "Contract with America" that took their power away after the "Hillary Healthcare" disaster in 1994. They think power is theirs by divine right and anyone arguing to the contrary should go to the gulags. That is why they must never be allowed to have power ever again. Look at the mess they've made in the 6 months since they took back Congress. All sorts of BS, lots of heat, very little light.
Charles of Schaumburg
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So there IS a Liberal Agenda.
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Yes, there are liberal agendaS, and conservative agendas, and a moderate agendas, and all sorts of radical agendas, and environmentalist agendas, and big oil agendas, and a ........
Ed
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said in rec.autos.driving:

I'm gonna have lunch in about an hour. It's an agenda.
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The "man-made global warming" crowd is entirely religious. The entire movement is ecclesiastical in nature, and its church is Mother Nature.
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As opposed to the church of big business and denial? The right wingers who religiously deny this are just as bad as the left wingers who religiously believe it. Neither side has the use for meaningful open minded discussions.
BTW the only major scientific organization in the world that doesn't believe that man is playing a significant role in global warming is the American Association of Petroleum Geologists. Are you affiliated with the petroleum industry by any chance?
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OK, assuming that what you say is true, what exactly does that prove?
Ed
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Nobody in their right mind accepts corporate funded research results unless there is independent verification. Doesn't matter if the people actually doing the work are from a college. If the financial support for the work came from a corporation with a potential interest in the results, the work must be verified independently.
Does that answer your question?
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And nobody in their right mind should accept research results from any entity with any other agenda.
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